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  1. Kynan

    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    To be fair, that isn't really a great assessment as: Joanna of Aragon and Castile lost her husband in her 20s, so we don't know when she would have stopped having children. Maria of Aragon and Castile died in her mid-thirties, so we don't now when she would have stopped having children...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    I honestly can't remember my exact intentions, but I assume Richard, Duke of York and Norfolk ascends as King Richard III in 1518 and I just forgot to update it as I played around with everything. As for Iberia, I assume the lack fo Philip of Burgundy leaves Joanna free to marry Manuel in...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Scenario: The other Edward IV of England. Henry VI, King of England (b.1421: d.1492) m. Margaret of Anjou (b.1430: d.1487) (a) 1a) Edward IV, King of England (b.1453: d.1509) m. Anne Neville (b.1456: d.1480) (a), Margaret of Lorraine (b.1463: d.1527) (b) 1a) Henry, Duke of Bedford (b.1471...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Scenario: William the Even Younger King. Might be a bit crackpot. Henry 'the Young King' III, King of England (b.1155: d.1183) m. Margaret, Princess of France (b.1158: d.1177) (a), Gisela of Swabia (c.1168: d.1184) (b) 1a) William III, King of England, Duke of Normandy and Aquitaine, Count of...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Scenario: Charles Brandon dies in 1520 - Mary Tudor marries Charles V. Mary Tudor, Princess of England (b.1496: d.1539) m. Louis XII, King of France (b.1462: d.1515) (a), Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk (b.1484: d.1520) (b), Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1500: d.1558) (c) 1b) Henry...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Scenario: All of James II's daughters survive. Names in purple left with James II in 1688, or were born after. James II, King of England, Ireland and Scotand (b.1633: d.1701) m. Anne Hyde (b.1637: d.1671) (a), Maria d'Este of Modena (b.1658: d.1718) (b) 1a) Charles, Duke of Cambridge (b.1660...
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    A very different 1540: Anne of Cleves takes charge

    Frances (Lady Surrey) had ridden from London to Hatfield and put Mary in a position where she forgot her role as part of the Queen’s household and now she’s being punished.
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    A very different 1540: Anne of Cleves takes charge
    Threadmarks: #21 Pox arrives in London

    Frances Howard – formerly Frances de Vere – held her cloak tight in a carriage that went faster than she knew it could. London was sick as could be. Her husband was dead, and her children would follow. His last letter sat at her breast. She needed help. She turned to the country. -- Anne...
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    A very different 1540: Anne of Cleves takes charge
    Threadmarks: #20 More Kitty and Cromwell

    Henry lay next to his favourite girl in the world and felt content. It wasn’t just that Kitty Howard was a beautiful ornament to the court. There were dozens of beauties amongst the maids of his court. But Kitty made him feel…big. Strong. Like a virile and healthy man. Laying next to her, his...
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    A very different 1540: Anne of Cleves takes charge
    Threadmarks: #19 Two "Weddings" and a Funeral

    Thomas Cromwell had practically dragged the Lady Elizabeth out of her bed himself to have her join the Saxon party on their way out of England and onto their ships. The little red-haired child had screamed that she had “but too much pain in my gut”, despite having been caught sneaking candied...
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    Anno Obumbratio: A 16th Century Alternate History

    Woo go Joan - who I'm going to assume and hope gets to be a cool, unmarried lady at court!
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Yes, he’d be the heir to both France and Brittany.
  13. Kynan

    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Scenario: Francois I of France dies in 1517. I had some fun with this one. It’s rough tho - I may build it out into a timeline. Louis XII, King of France (b.1462: d.1515) m. Jeanne, Princess of France (b.1464: d.1505) (a), Anne I, Duchess of Brittany (b.1477: d.1514) (b), Mary Tudor, Princess...
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    Anno Obumbratio: A 16th Century Alternate History

    Well this can only end in chaos.
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    That's a fair assessment - I assumed she might be more protective over her only child. That was a screw up on my end. I meant to kill him off earlier - that's been fixed. Joseph I died when she was 13 so I kind of don't think they'd be a good match age wise, Charles VI married when she was 10...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    I considered that, but I thought lower first wife chosen during the Catherine of Braganza regency to try and maintain power, high born second wife chosen by the son. I pictured her being considered for higher matches (Spain, Portugal, Austria, ect., ending on Hanover), but married off to the...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Sure! Juan III, King of Castile and Aragon (b.1478: d.1555) m. Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1480: d.1532) (a), Marguerite, Princess of France (b.1523: d.1574) (b) 1a) Isabella, Infanta of Castile and Aragon (b.1498: d.1500) 2a) Ferdinand, Prince of Asturias (b.1501: d.1523) m...
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    I’m not quite sure but likely a minor German Princess.
  19. Kynan

    Anno Obumbratio: A 16th Century Alternate History

    Good for Beatriz but I can’t imagine this is the end of Anne Boleyn.
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    List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

    Scenario: Catherine of Braganza gets one win. Charles II, King of England, Ireland, and Scotland (b.1630: d.1685) m. Catherine of Braganza, Infanta of Portugal (b.1638: d.1705) (a) 1a) Charles III Louis, King of England, Ireland, and Scotland (b.1674: d.1744) m. Sophie Angelika of...
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