British E-class submarine, standard submarine of the RN in WWI and a more successful design than the K-class. Armament 4x18 in torpedoes and one 18 in gun.
I think it would.Hey, that gun is even retractable! I wonder if this would make a good stand-in a good base for a Confederate Great War sub. As in, their standard type.
Good question. I wonder what Germany would be fielding in a world where their submarine development wasn't halted in the 1920's.What about the Second Great War? What kinds of battleships would the Union and the CSA field? I'm sure the Union is fielding battleships as big as the planned Montanas as AFAIK, TL-191 has no equivalent to the WNT.
What about the Second Great War? What kinds of battleships would the Union and the CSA field? I'm sure the Union is fielding battleships as big as the planned Montanas as AFAIK, TL-191 has no equivalent to the WNT.
Good question. I wonder what Germany would be fielding in a world where their submarine development wasn't halted in the 1920's.
What if the Germans built US designed aircraft carriers?Yeah! And for that matter a timeline where their whole fleet isn't scuttled at Scapa Flow, a timeline in which the High Seas Fleet, despite losing Jutland, still remains intact and afloat. Its quite a collection of ships when compared to the British Royal Navy. Heck, we may even see the Graf Zeppelin even being completed in this timeline, where the Germans finally get their own legit aircraft carrier, with new carrier based fighter planes, bombers, and torpedo planes.
Perhaps that a little optimistic, but it is a Germany that is victorious in this timeline and one that would definitely still keeping advancing its military tech.
What if the Germans built US designed aircraft carriers?
British E-class submarine, standard submarine of the RN in WWI and a more successful design than the K-class. Armament 4x18 in torpedoes and one 18 in gun.
Can we see battleships matching or even surpassing the Yamato in size be common ITTL?The United States Navy may very well have very large battleships like the Montana-class going up against the British and French navies. I feel as if this is a timeline in which the age of the battleship... not quite reaching an end? As if that chapter in naval history is not quite drawing to a close just yet. Large naval engagements possibly involving battleships are still occurring I think, but we're not given any details. Carriers are certainly of critical importance here as well however.
Graf Zeppelin would never exist in 191. OTL during WWI Germany was converting the Italian Liner Ausonia into a carrier, not named just letter I. Most likely 191 Germany does something similar and has a carrier of their own in the late teens/early 20's and develops from their. Graf Zeppelin was an abomination that resulted from a navy that never really experimented with full deck carriers and a design staff cut to the bone and mismanaged from Versailles restrictions, neither true in 191Yeah! And for that matter a timeline where their whole fleet isn't scuttled at Scapa Flow, a timeline in which the High Seas Fleet, despite losing Jutland, still remains intact and afloat. Its quite a collection of ships when compared to the British Royal Navy. Heck, we may even see the Graf Zeppelin even being completed in this timeline, where the Germans finally get their own legit aircraft carrier, with new carrier based fighter planes, bombers, and torpedo planes.
Perhaps that a little optimistic, but it is a Germany that is victorious in this timeline and one that would definitely still keeping advancing its military tech.
Unlikely, ships are close enough to bespoke that their really isn't that much to be gained by doing so vis a vis designing their own. Getting US advice is much more likelyWhat if the Germans built US designed aircraft carriers?
What about the Second Great War? What kinds of battleships would the Union and the CSA field? I'm sure the Union is fielding battleships as big as the planned Montanas as AFAIK, TL-191 has no equivalent to the WNT.
Can we see battleships matching or even surpassing the Yamato in size be common ITTL?
Yeah! And for that matter a timeline where their whole fleet isn't scuttled at Scapa Flow, a timeline in which the High Seas Fleet, despite losing Jutland, still remains intact and afloat. Its quite a collection of ships when compared to the British Royal Navy. Heck, we may even see the Graf Zeppelin even being completed in this timeline, where the Germans finally get their own legit aircraft carrier, with new carrier based fighter planes, bombers, and torpedo planes.
Perhaps that a little optimistic, but it is a Germany that is victorious in this timeline and one that would definitely still keeping advancing its military tech.
While I happily defer to the veritable squadron of Navy enthusiasts on these boards more knowledgeable than myself when it comes to matters maritime, one thought that did occur to me was that the Timeline 191 Royal Navy would almost certainly be obliged to maintain its Pacific Station - probably Headquartered at Pearl Harbour* - rather than close it down "On Schedule" in 1905.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Station - I do wonder if the British base at Pearl Harbor would qualify as "His Majesty's Dockyard" (HMD Pearl Harbor) or "His Majesty's Naval Base" (HMNB Pearl Harbor), since proper nomenclature fascinates me for some reason.
*Why yes, that is a highly improper spelling - or rather it would be in every Universe except one where the British were the ones exercising a protectorate over the "Sandwich Isles" and could therefore mandate spelling based on the King's English rather than various strange American innovations.
*Why yes, that is a highly improper spelling - or rather it would be in every Universe except one where the British were the ones exercising a protectorate over the "Sandwich Isles" and could therefore mandate spelling based on the King's English rather than various strange American innovations.