umayyad

  1. Bomster

    WI: Umar ibn Hafsun defeats the Umayyads - Mozarab/Muladí Al-Andalus

    One of my favorite historical subjects to research is Al-Andalus, the Muslim-ruled realms of the Iberian peninsula that existed between the 8th and 15th centuries. A land where East met West, Al-Andalus represented a rare example of Islamic Arab rule of Western European territory, resulting in...
  2. Bomster

    AHC/WI: Umayyads adopt less repressive racial policies

    So having done research lately on Umayyad Al-Andalus, it appears that a big factor in the Umayyad Caliphate’s fall which triggered the Berber Revolt and the Abbasid Revolution that exiled the Umayyads to Iberia was its oppressive policies towards non-Arabs. And while the Umayyads in Al-Andalus...
  3. Bomster

    WI: Second Arab Siege of Constantinople (717-718) succeeds

    This seems to be one of the potentially most pivotal possible turning points in history. In 716, the Eastern Roman Empire was weakened by the Twenty Year’s Anarchy. The Umayyad Caliph, already overseeing an empire that stretched from Hispania to India, launched an invasion of Asia Minor, and by...
  4. Bomster

    WI: Umayyads win Battle of Toulouse in 721

    While the Battle of Tours in 732 is seen as a pivotal moment in halting the Muslim expansion into Western Europe, it actually may be overshadowed in importance by the earlier Battle of Toulouse in 721. According to historian Ian Meadows, after the swift conquest of Iberia into the Umayyad...
  5. Bomster

    WI: Further Muslim Expansion into France

    I know this scenario may be ASB, and I’m not an expert on Medieval European history, but hear me out. Let’s say that the Umayyad raiders win the Battle of Tours, and Charles Martel is killed. The Umayyads use this as an opportunity to expand their borders past Septimania into more of Southern...
  6. WI Marwan succeeds Muawiyah instead of Yazid; No 2nd fitnah.

    Marwan was the most senior living Umayyad after Muawiyah, 25 years older than Yazid, and had a lifetime of experience in governance, unlike Yazid.  In his twenties he partook in the initial invasion of Ifriqiyah alongside Hassan, Husain, Ibn Zubayr, Ibn Umar and many other companions. Then he...
  7. WI: Constitutional Caliphate?

    OTL, In April 744 Yazid iii mentioned he would implement the following policies: Not to build any buildings of stone or brick, nor to dig any canals. (Referring to palaces and private gardens) Not to hoard wealth. Not to give wealth to wives or children. To transfer wealth from one province to...
  8. 744; The Alids, A Better Caliphate
    Threadmarks: Revolution

    In mid 744, after the assassination of Walid ii, at the site of the prophet's mother's grave (alAbwa), the majority of Banu Hashim, including the Abbasids: Ibrahim al imam, Saffah and AlMansur, all pledged fealty to Muhammad ibn Abdullah anNafs azZakiyyah. The Abbasids won the loyalty of...
  9. WI Succesful Caliphate invasion of Constantinople?

    What if the Arabs succesfully took Constaninople during the first siege in 674-678? Would they be able to take the entire Roman Empire as they did the Persian? Or would the Empire be able to succeed and relocate its capital? What would this fall mean for the future of the Orthodox Church? How...
  10. Raqqa; Ideal Caliphal capital?

    Problems with Damascus: The Umayyads chose Damascus as their capital, but while it's a good, centrally located Levantine capital, it seems to me to be a poor capital for a Caliphate stretching from the Atlantic to the Indus. Firstly Damascus is quite isolated. Landlocked with no Navigable...
  11. Continuing after Sufetula 647; Muslim Europe

    In 647, outside the temporary capital of the exarchate of Africa, Sufetula, the Muslims crushed the Roman army, killing the exarch Gregory. Leaving the rest of the Roman Maghreb defenceless. Commanded by some of the most senior of companions of the prophet: But instead of pressing on, they...
  12. Taunay

    No Umayyad conquest of Iberia

    Let's say that the invasion simply fails and the Umayyads decide to focus their energies on something else. How would this affect the Iberian Peninsula, besides the fact that Portugal, Castile, Galicia, Leon etc would never exist? How would this impact the Islamic world?
  13. WI Berbers Take Kairouan/ Tunisia during the Great Berber Revolt .

    During the Great Berber Revolt , The Berbers Attempted to Take the Provinicial Capital of Kairouan , though they were ultimately repulsed by the Umayyqds , who retained the area around modern day Tunisia , Although they would control Tunisia intermittently afterwards until the rise of the...
  14. What if the Umayyads didn't escape to Spain?

    During the collapse of the Umayyad Caliphate, Abd al-Rahman I escaped to Spain and the Umayyad dynasty ruled over the Islamic Iberia until the 11th century. What if he wasn't able to escape? Would the Abbasids be able to take Spain? Would a local noble or general take over? Would a North...
  15. Ummayad-Abbasid Cold War?

    The question I'm asking is whether it is possible for the Abbasid revolution to stall once they took Mesopotamia, leading to a standoff between the Umayyads and Abbasids, one potentially lasting for decades or even centuries. I know little about this place and time in history, but from what I've...
  16. Abd ar-Rahman II

    WI : The Umayyad win the Battle of the Nobles 740 / Berber revolt

    what If the Umayyad won the Battle of the Nobles OTL first big battle and victory for the Berber in the Berber revolt who would result in the first independent Muslim (even if heritic ) state outside of the Calipahte and the the loss of western Maghreb . I chose it over Bagdoura because...
  17. Abbasid Revolt Fail

    What if Ummayad figure out the plans of As-Saffah and co are able to stangled the revolt in his cradle?
  18. AdamNeuser

    [DISCUSSION] The Umayyad Caliphate wins the siege of Constantinople (717-718)

    The Siege of Constantinople in 717 AD was the Umayyad Caliphate's major combined arms offensive against the Roman Empire. And one of the largest sea and land military operations across the entire medieval era. The decision to lay siege to the city came about mostly as a result of an extended...
  19. ArchimedesCircle

    For Want of a Hammer
    Threadmarks: Prelude

    Prelude The transition between the late Roman and the post-Roman west was not a simple process. First came the Migration period, the Völkerwanderung, when Germanic peoples swept through the Western Roman Empire. Then the Empire ceased to exist, dissolved by Odoacer. Odoacer was in turn...
  20. AHD: The Caliphate, its nature and the potentiality for Rebellion, a short discussion

    This is an introduction to a discussion to a topic that I have thought about quite often as of late. To preface, the comparison made, is one that postulates the Arab conquests and Islamic invasion as both an inheritor of sorts of some aspects of those prior, both Roman, Mesopotamian, Jewish...
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