Blue Skies in Camelot (Continued): An Alternate 80s and Beyond

[King of Danes]

Question for everybody we've been talking about JFK and a movie based on him. But when do we think a movie or miniseries based on Robert F. Kennedy would be made? IOTL there was a mini-series called Robert F. Kennedy and his times and that was in 1985, so obviously that can't happen here as he'll be President (If he wins another term.) So when do we think a biographical film or Mini series could be made about him ITTL?

We’ll probably see several miniseries/docus about him
1st one: Late 80s/Early 90s. Right after he’s out of office to sort of celebrate his time in office and look at who the man was
2nd one: Maybe early/mid 00s. Now there’s been more time to analyze his presidency for good and bad, and a period has passed where we can really see what effect he had. This one will likely be the most critical of him
3rd one: I imagine it could coincide with his death, so maybe anywhere in the mid 10s? Him dying in his late 80s-early 90s is fairly likely. This would likely fall somewhere in the middle of the two critique wise. It’s a very tasteful memorial of his life, presidency and overall influence but we’ve still had the time to see how his actions have affected things longterm and some of his mistakes might also be judged differently by a later audience

 

[PRM]

We’ll probably see several miniseries/docus about him
1st one: Late 80s/Early 90s. Right after he’s out of office to sort of celebrate his time in office and look at who the man was
2nd one: Maybe early/mid 00s. Now there’s been more time to analyze his presidency for good and bad, and a period has passed where we can really see what effect he had. This one will likely be the most critical of him
3rd one: I imagine it could coincide with his death, so maybe anywhere in the mid 10s? Him dying in his late 80s-early 90s is fairly likely. This would likely fall somewhere in the middle of the two critique wise. It’s a very tasteful memorial of his life, presidency and overall influence but we’ve still had the time to see how his actions have affected things longterm and some of his mistakes might also be judged differently by a later audience

good points, though I think actually he has a chance to make it to his centennial unlike Jack he doesn't have any lingering health issues though we'll see when he does get up there in age.

 

[King of Danes]

good points, though I think actually he has a chance to make it to his centennial unlike Jack he doesn't have any lingering health issues though we'll see when he does get up there in age.

He has a chance, but living until 100 isn’t an easy feat even with all the best healthcare available. Even Liz and Philip didn’t make 100, and no President has reached it yet otl (still rooting for Carter on this one). Looking at his siblings and parents, only his mom reached 100. Most of the siblings and dad died in their 80s with Ted dying in his late 70s and one sister in her 90s. The men in his immediate family (who died of natural causes) also went out around their 80s. That’s why I think late 80s/early 90s is a fairly accurate take with access to the best healthcare around But if our author desires him reaching 100, I suppose it isn’t strictly impossible.

 

[PRM]

He has a chance, but living until 100 isn’t an easy feat even with all the best healthcare available. Even Liz and Philip didn’t make 100, and no President has reached it yet otl (still rooting for Carter on this one). Looking at his siblings and parents, only his mom reached 100. Most of the siblings and dad died in their 80s with Ted dying in his late 70s and one sister in her 90s. The men in his immediate family (who died of natural causes) also went out around their 80s. That’s why I think late 80s/early 90s is a fairly accurate take with access to the best healthcare around But if our author desires him reaching 100, I suppose it isn’t strictly impossible.

You are correct in that. So maybe not 100 maybe your right late 80s/early 90s would give him a long good life and give him the chance to meet his great-grandchildren because you know with how young he and Ethel were when they got married they're definitel gonna have those.

 

[Kennedy Forever]

Anyone remember if the US implemented a Universal Basic Income ITTL? I remember it was talked about in the original story thread by MLK before his attempted assassination in the 60s but after that I can't seem to find any mention of it. If anyone can let me know it would be appreciated 🙂

 

[Maxthecat]

A wikibox of President Kennedy the first.

 

[AndyWho]

View attachment 891612A wikibox of President Kennedy the first.

Is that a spoiler for Kennedy or just a personal edit?

 

[Maxthecat]

Is that a spoiler for Kennedy or just a personal edit?

Kennedy's death date was already posted.

 

[King of Danes]

View attachment 891612A wikibox of President Kennedy the first.

Is that a spoiler for Kennedy or just a personal edit?

Kennedy's death date was already posted.

Yeah, but in that same post, Bobby Kennedy was a supreme court justice (iirc) and not President, so I don’t think it’s completely set in stone when he dies yet

 

[Maxthecat]

Yeah, but in that same post, Bobby Kennedy was a supreme court justice (iirc) and not President, so I don’t think it’s completely set in stone when he dies yet

Huh, well I'll be.

 

[Maxthecat]

IIRC the OG plan was for Udall to be re-elected, I remember the original intro to the sequel thread was Udall and Reagan accepting their nominations for the 1980 election.

 

[Kennedy Forever]

Yeah, but in that same post, Bobby Kennedy was a supreme court justice (iirc) and not President, so I don’t think it’s completely set in stone when he dies yet

Bobby could still end up a Supreme Court Justice post his Presidency which I think would be pretty cool

 

[King of Danes]

Bobby could still end up a Supreme Court Justice post his Presidency which I think would be pretty cool

Not impossible, I suppose. Taft did it after all

 

[Kennedy Forever]

Not impossible, I suppose. Taft did it after all

Exactly! Plus Supreme Court Justice Robert Kennedy has a nice ring to it in my opinion 🙂

 

[PRM]

I still think the author has said he still plans for JFK to pass away in 1985 despite all the changes. I think it makes sense, by that time the Addison's disease has really taken a toll on his body and he'll be ready to go. It's sad but at least he wouldn't be in pain anymore.

 

[King of Danes]

I still think the author has said he still plans for JFK to pass away in 1985 despite all the changes. I think it makes sense, by that time the Addison's disease has really taken a toll on his body and he'll be ready to go. It's sad but at least he wouldn't be in pain anymore.

Would be sensible enough. Alternatively, keep him alive until autumn 1986 so that the Democrats get some sympathy votes heh

 

[PRM]

Would be sensible enough. Alternatively, keep him alive until autumn 1986 so that the Democrats get some sympathy votes heh

Uh, yeah I don't think him dying would be a good thing to use to get votes IMO

 

[King of Danes]

Uh, yeah I don't think him dying would be a good thing to use to get votes IMO

You’d be surprised. I could see “Vote Democrat! Do it for JFK!” become a rallying cry to avoid a too rough 10 year itch

 

[PRM]

You’d be surprised. I could see “Vote Democrat! Do it for JFK!” become a rallying cry to avoid a too rough 10 year itch

Good point. I could actually see that become a rallying cry even in 1985. I could actually see the democrats depending on how well RFK does in his second term coupled with JFK's death a year earlier could cause the democrats to actual gain seats.

 

[Nishimura89]

You’d be surprised. I could see “Vote Democrat! Do it for JFK!” become a rallying cry to avoid a too rough 10 year itch

Indeed, never underestimate "sympathy votes," especially toward a reasonably popular former two-term president. It will not influence the election in a big way, but it will give the Democrats enough momentum.