Can see the Norweigans losing this war but Kongsvinger being a combination Thermopylae/Alamo to rally the nation around in time for their next attempt at independence - which hopefully for their sake will be far less haphazard.
More or less deducing my thinking. Kongsvinger already has a symbolic/mythic importance in the Norwegian national consciousness thanks to similar events there in 1814 and this will only add to thatCan see the Norweigans losing this war but Kongsvinger being a combination Thermopylae/Alamo to rally the nation around in time for their next attempt at independence - which hopefully for their sake will be far less haphazard.
Correct. Norway will have to bide her time properly, too many people are either invested in the status quo or not invested enough in Norway to upset the status quo.another war of independence would be some ways off though wouldn’t it? Russia is open to weakening Sweden-Norway but won’t openly back Norway for fear of upsetting Germany. Britain supports Norway but at the same time fears destabilizing the region and allowing someone else to fill the power vacuum. Maybe another bid for Norwegian independence could come during the CAW? The German-Italian alliance would be distracted, Sweden can’t count on their friendship. Norway could exploit said window in order to defeat Sweden with or without foreign backing.
Looks like the conservatives can either form a coalition with the radicals, or with the Progressive and Republican Reform. Wonder what they will pick.All 401 seats in the Cortes; 201 seats needed for a majority
Conservative (Maura): 117 (+43)
Radical (Salmeron): 86 (-17)
National Liberal (Canalejas): 82 (-125)
Progressive (Moret): 48 (+48)
Republican Reform (Lerroux): 39 (+39)
Integrist (Nocedal): 10 (+3)
Regionalist (Puig): 9 (+3)
PSOE (Iglesias): 4 (+4)
Cuban Nationalist (Palma): 4 (+4)
Independents (N/A): 2 (-2)
They are, to an extent, but decide to eat each other's vote share up with the Lerroux/Salmeron split over Catalonia (that's their big clash, plus Lerroux being allied with Ferrer). Moret and Canalejas are a personality clash as both are relatively moderate, Moret more a Primista and Canalejas more a Serranista, but the former's knifing of the latter did not go over well and Moret has more followers to lose to the real item (plus PSOE running and winning seats for the first time).Huh, I figured that the radicals would be the biggest beneficiary of Liberal misfortune. But I suppose that reaction would also benefit given that Spain in this period also tends to lean conservative. Is there much daylight between the super corrupt Lerroux and Salmeron and between Canalejas and Moret? Or is it just a clash of personalities with separate groups of followers? Bc it’s looking like either the turno system breaking up or like the profusion of parties under the second republic
Not a formal coalition, but Maura enjoys the outside confidence of Canalejas, which also restricts how much he could do. Some more statist economic ideas from the Conservatives might get one-off Radical or Progressive support, of courseLooks like the conservatives can either form a coalition with the radicals, or with the Progressive and Republican Reform. Wonder what they will pick.
The Conde de Romanones will make an appearance sooner or later!I forgot about Catalonia. What happened to the Conde de Romanones? I thought maybe Canelejas and Moret would lack the authority to really lead the liberals. Is it purely caciquismo propping then up?
"If the Filipinos can fight in their mountains to free themselves from Spain, cannot we do the same to free ourselves from Sweden?"
I have a brief one in mind that's meant as a mild cliffhanger/jumping off point, fear not!Are we going to get an update on china before Part VI ends? if not, what's the situation there as of late 1905?
Lol yes exactly! Glad you picked up on that hahaSure. The difference is only (give or take) 15 thousand kilometers.
And i thought the 1920s would be peaceful. You’ve already alluded to the destruction of Austria Hungary. Are those wars meant to allude to the competition between the successor states and their neighbors? I mean IOTL you did have revanchism, like Hungary with the Treaty of Trianon or Czechoslovakia & Poland with Teschen or Bulgaria with that part they ceded to Romania. But it never actually turned violent in the interwar period"...though he had very little operational authority over the actual campaign, Prince Carl would for years after be praised in Sweden for serving in the army that attacked Christiania as part of the push, as he put it, "to avenge my slain brother." His diaries remain a detailed, rigorous primary source document for the first major urban battle of the modern era in Europe. Compared to some of the stunning military and civilian casualty counts that would be common in the wars of the 1910s and early 1920s [1], Christiania was barely a light skirmish, though to its participants its pitched six days of combat was an experience of savagery and hell. The most intense fighting was in the southern approaches, hilly and wooded and with the highest concentrations of troops due to its excellent defensible terrain. The Norwegian plan was to bleed the Swedes for every inch between Ski and the Akershus Fortress, and the fighting was grim.
The attack from the east, however, showed the insufficiency of the Norwegian preparations, as the III Corps swept much of the less organized resistance from its path once it had broken clear of the bloody fighting in Strommen. It turned out that perhaps dying for an esoteric liberty was not worth it. The cause of independence was one that had inspired the Norwegian people tremendously and the resentment towards Sweden was real, but the Union had, for all its considerable flaws, not been some oppressive overseas empire tightening the vice. The news that the Michelsen government was fleeing by train and carriage to Kristiansand as ordinary people made barricades out of dining tables, school desks and pub chairs sparked massive outrage and as the Swedish Army finally pushed into the city proper, a great number of Norwegians threw down their weapons and surrendered. Fears that the old heart of the city would be flattened did not occur, scarred as it was by artillery shells and bullet holes; rumors of mass rapes and wanton murders did not occur either. Each side suffered between six to seven thousand casualties with the typical killed-in-action ratio of one fifth of that number perishing, and something on the order of that number of civilians perished as well. The Sack of Baghdad, it was not, and compared to the heinous barbarism of China or the Philippines just years earlier it was practically cordial.
Michelsen was met in Kristiansand by a Royal Navy cruiser carrying a very pointed message from London - the Norwegians had made their point, but it was time to stop before things got out of hand. The Christianafjord was unbarricaded by the Swedish fleet and foreign vessels could enter again, foregoing a potential food shortage in August; outside of scattered shootings or nighttime attacks on drunk Swedish soldiers, the occupation was light. The war, for all practical purposes, had ended barely two months after it began. Michelsen agreed to order a general stand down if the Swedes evacuated Norwegian territory; this was mostly refused, but Christiania was relinquished on September 1st as the Swedish Army retreated to more distant positions so negotiations could begin between the belligerents, this time under London's supervision in Aalborg with the soon-to-be dead Christian IX [2] of Denmark acting as arbitrator, albeit quite a pro-Norwegian one. A stipulation of the Swedes, however, was that Michelsen immediately resign along with his whole Cabinet, and Hagerup was re-appointed Prime Minister in Christiania and Lovland in Stockholm, precisely as it had been before the May Crisis just a short but history-altering four months earlier. This was a particularly grim denouement in Norway, where it felt like the whole ordeal had been for no change whatsoever and just a humiliation for all of Europe to see.
The War of 1905 remained for that reason in contemporary annals a strange curiosity. It had been destructive and hard on eastern Norway, yes, but the vast majority of the country had gone untouched and the casualties of the entire campaign were well below fifteen thousand for both belligerents, nearly half of which had been sustained at either Aurskog or Christiania. It changed little; the Union of Sweden and Norway endured, and the Norwegian Cabinet, in return for full Swedish evacuation of Norwegian territory, passed the New Laws that bound them tighter to Sweden and created joint councils for economic and military policy, thus making it in theory quite difficult for any future Norwegian domestic cabinet to prepare another war of independence against Sweden. To further accentuate that point, the Swedes demolished border fortifications at Fredriksten, Oyre and Aurskog as they pulled out of Norway entirely; Kongsvinger was left to stand only due to its distance from the border.
Norway had retained numerous liberties considering the thirst for revenge in Sweden, however. Her Parliamentary prerogatives were not curtailed, nor were any sanctions placed on her remarkably universal suffrage. The New Laws stipulated that, like in Austria-Hungary, the Norwegians could appoint their own consuls and ministers overseas, which had been one of the major sticking points with the original Union. And, of course, they needed only royal asset to their laws, so no Viceroy of Norway could ever intercept laws from reaching the King again. That all said, though, 1905 dramatically changed Norwegian attitudes toward the Union. They were no longer lillebror, a junior partner in a partnership forced upon them 91 years earlier, but felt more like a conquered people now. "We are the Irish of the North," Michelsen lamented in a newspaper interview in Denmark, where he moved after the war. Blood had been spilt to keep Norway in the Union after years of rising tensions in which Christiania had always backed down, and Sweden had lost its crown prince over the ordeal. Resentments were real and now ran quite deep, on both sides of the border. Europe had not heard the last of tensions in oft-forgotten Scandinavia.
But the real impact of the crisis had been on the lessons learned by other powers, for both offensive and defensive warfare, about the efficacy of train transport (the Norwegian evacuation from Fredriksborg and Moss was a cause celebre among military planners for years) and timetable mobilization and how to manage professional soldiers, conscripts, reservists and volunteers, logistics and the like. It was a general European war in miniature for other powers to observe at a safe distance and ponder how new technologies and doctrines would affect them in future combat.
And, perhaps most importantly, the war had crushed whatever liberal push there had been for reform in Sweden; Oskar II had after all dismissed his entire Cabinet and dissolved Parliament to conduct war, and he had won and kept his Norway, which was lucky to have kept its constitution intact. There was no way he was going soft now, nor would the aristocracy that backed him. For the autocrats around Europe, this was the true godsend - the sign that perhaps the liberal ascendancy of the last quarter century was cresting and beginning to now ebb back to the proper order of things..."
- Path of Darkness: Europe's Illiberal Hour
[1] Tipping my hand a bit here
[2] He would die in January of 1906