For Want of A Sandwich - A Franz Ferdinand Lives Wikibox TL

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Mohamed Oufkir ( محمد أوفقير) was the Second President of the Moroccan Republic, from August, 16 1972 to his death on October, 20 1996, having overthrown M’hamed Ababou in a military coup, before being succeeded by his long-time associate General Mohamed Amekrane.

Born in 1920 in the High Atlas, he enlisted in the German Colonial Corps in 1941, distinguishing himself during the Siege of Cologne, the Battle of Morocco and the Spanish Campaign during the World War, earning himself the Pour le Mérite and finishing the war as an Oberstleutnant. At the time of Moroccan independence, he was among the first Generals of the Moroccan Army, military aide to Sultan Hassan II and in charge of military intelligence ; he distinguished himself as the leader of the pro-German side and a ruthless strongman, in the repression of the 1960 Ben Barka plot and the 1965 Mauritanian riots. Having lent his support at the last minute to the 1971 Moroccan Revolution, he rapidly grew to fear the left-wing policies of the Ababou government, ruled by Prime Minister Mehdi Ben Barka, a known socialist who had just come back from exile. Supported by Germany, he overthrew Ababou and Ben Barka during a bloody military coup on August, 12 1972.

Even if he came in power with the full support of Germany, Oufkir immediately took a new position : worried about dissension from the Left, Islamist groups and ethnic minorities, he adopted a new version of a Muslim secular society, inspired by the early Young Turks and Hashemite Caliph Faisal ; this policy, known as Oufkirism, called for a laicized Moroccan society, adopting Western customs and leaving religion at home, while embracing the concept of a Moroccan ethnostate, that would merge Arabs and Berbers together.

Adopting an irredentist and expansionist policy for a Greater Morocco, fueled by the natural resources of unsteady Mauritania, Oufkir embarked on this course when he nationalized German assets in 1974, forging deeper economic links with the United States, Russia and Japan ; the following year, he declared a low-intensity war on France, asserting old Alaouite claims over Bechar and Tindouf. Fledging since their last Civil War and decades of repression against Algerian independentists, the newly inaugurated Servan-Schreiber Administration accepted to abandon to Morocco vast desertic territories by the Treaty of Oran in 1977, that was hailed as a massive victory in Morocco. Meanwhile, Oufkir funded and encouraged fledging Canarian nationalism that managed to organize a bomb attack in Tenerife in 1976 and to organize a referendum for independence in 1978. Becoming independent in 1982, the Canaries’ Republic under Moroccan strawman Antonio Cubillo of course immediately Morocco for annexation… That was “granted” in 1985.

But it was the Tangier Crisis in 1979 that almost costed everything to the strongman of Morocco. Having repeatedly called the status of Free City “an heritage of the age of imperialism”, he provoked a worldwide surprise on April, 7 1979, on the anniversary of Moroccan independence, when Moroccan troops established a heavily enforced blockade over Tangier, having mined the Cape Spartel. Cut off from the world, due to both the Moroccan Navy and Air Force blocking all reinforcement, Tangier fell in five months in a state of starvation. Fearing violence from the besieging troops, Iranian Commissioner Sadruddin Aga Khan, ruling the city for the World Council, organized the Tangier Evacuation, removing all foreign residents and Moroccan exiles from Tangier, including former Prime Minister Mehdi Ben Barka, thereby abandoning the city and avoiding a bloodshed on September, 24 1979, when Moroccan troops entered the city. Khan would receive the Peace Nobel Prize for his actions, but Oufkir was expelled from the Reichspakt and had to face hard opposition at home : democracy protesters in the cities in 1981, 1984 and 1989 (at the death of Mehdi Ben Barka), from Mauritanian rebels in 1986 and a coup attempt from General Dlimi in 1983.

After the quelling of the Moorish revolt in 1986, Mohamed Oufkir began to steer into a more respectable position, building on the success of his presidential Constitution adopted in 1981. In 1988, he added a new set of laws guaranteeing freedom of religion and secularism in Morocco and began to rescind relations with Germany, culminating in the candidacy of Morocco to the European Community in 1992, that would culminate into its admission in 2007. More over, the spreading of Islamic terrorism in Egypt, the Hashemite State and Central Asia convinced worldwide leaders that Oufkirism was an excellent policy, from their point of view, for the Arab World. His personal triumph was the organization of the FIFA World Cup in Morocco in 1994, culminating in a magnificent match between Italy and Sweden in the all new Casablanca Stadium. Oufkir died in 1996, after twenty-four years in power, and was succeeded by his longtime associate, General Mohamed Amekrane, who continued to turn Morocco on the road of democratization.

The legacy of Mohamed Oufkir and its policies are mixed : still very popular in Morocco as the man who allowed the country to enter modernity, conquer vast territories and avoid the instability of the Arab World, he is reviled as a dictatorial warmonger by the opposition, moreover the Black minorities of Mauritania and the followers of exiled Mehdi Ben Barka.
Interesting, but Hassan II was supportive of the Maghreb (he did not recognize Mauritania for ten years and supported the Green March against the Spaniards)

He was very deceitful and ruthless in suppressing coups

(He deceived the coup by claiming that he died before suddenly purifying them and appearing in another place and did not even allow funeral prayers for the coup leaders after their execution and brutally suppressing the coup.)


I think that Kaiser Wilhelm II said he supports the independence of Morocco, so I think that Morocco is a constitutional monarchy (with Mohammed VI as king) in the German style with economic domination by Germany is more realistic


Frankly speaking, you made Oufkir look like Hassan II
 
I think that Kaiser Wilhelm II said he supports the independence of Morocco, so I think that Morocco is a constitutional monarchy (with Mohammed VI as king) in the German style with economic domination by Germany is more realistic
Them being German stooges IIRC is why the monarchy got kicked out.
 

ahmedali

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Them being German stooges IIRC is why the monarchy got kicked out.
Oh, that's why the monarchy was thrown out (again I doubt the coup was successful given Hassan II's strong, authoritarian and ruthless personality)


Why do I feel that France has a role in the coup


It is sad that the Moroccan monarchy is gone, and I hope it will return one day


In general, your TIMELINE is very impressive
 
So, what is the population of the world compared to OTL and how does TTL's world population and economic development affect climate change and the general state of the environment compared to OTL?
 
Do the genocides mentioned create a stigma against doing the same thing like the OTL Holocaust or do people in this world not really care? How bad is the Sinophobia like are there major politicians advocating for full scale expulsions and ethnic cleansing?
 
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George Kim was a Korean American filmmaker. Born in Japanese-occupied Manchuria, he was born to a Korean independence activist, who was forced to flee to the United States after the repression of the 1948 Syndicalist uprising in Russian-occupied Korea. Known for his taste for basketball flicks and his attempt at a Korean-influenced monster movie, Kim was panned by critics for his mediocre attempts at screenwriting and directing, but he has gained a cult following among B-movie fans, praising its “so bad it’s good” qualities.
 
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George Kim was a Korean American filmmaker. Born in Japanese-occupied Manchuria, he was born to a Korean independence activist, who was forced to flee to the United States after the repression of the 1948 Syndicalist uprising in Russian-occupied Korea. Known for his taste for basketball flicks and his attempt at a Korean-influenced monster movie, Kim was panned by critics for his mediocre attempts at screenwriting and directing, but he has gained a cult following among B-movie fans, praising its “so bad it’s good” qualities.
Very based ngl. I love these sorta alternate migrations resulting in alternate careers sorta thing.
 
intersting


I would like to see independent Georgia with the king of Bagration or Hohenzollern and independent Bukhara



As for Russia, how did it allow the countries that were part of it to become independent? Did they decolonize like the Soviets or what?
Independent Georgia existed for some time. As of Russia, it has to do with the troubles that followed the Great European War.
How do Moscow and St. Petersburg compare to OTL in terms of size and general development as the latter is the capital of Russia ITTL here?
Moscow became again the capital of Russia in the 1930s, but Petrograd still thrives. Nowadays they're still blooming and their development is comparable to OTL London and Paris.
Interesting, but Hassan II was supportive of the Maghreb (he did not recognize Mauritania for ten years and supported the Green March against the Spaniards)

He was very deceitful and ruthless in suppressing coups

(He deceived the coup by claiming that he died before suddenly purifying them and appearing in another place and did not even allow funeral prayers for the coup leaders after their execution and brutally suppressing the coup.)


I think that Kaiser Wilhelm II said he supports the independence of Morocco, so I think that Morocco is a constitutional monarchy (with Mohammed VI as king) in the German style with economic domination by Germany is more realistic


Frankly speaking, you made Oufkir look like Hassan II

Them being German stooges IIRC is why the monarchy got kicked out.

Oh, that's why the monarchy was thrown out (again I doubt the coup was successful given Hassan II's strong, authoritarian and ruthless personality)


Why do I feel that France has a role in the coup


It is sad that the Moroccan monarchy is gone, and I hope it will return one day


In general, your TIMELINE is very impressive
It was a bit of my choice to have the Moroccan royals being kicked out in this alternate TL and Oufkir, due to his deceitfulness and ambition, sounded like an able Moroccan expansionist and enlightened dictator, preaching against Europe yet aligning himself on them.
What happens to Tony Blair and Labour in general ITTL?

Not sure if Blair is even born ITTL.
I have plans for Blair, but he never rose to prominence ITTL.
So, what is the population of the world compared to OTL and how does TTL's world population and economic development affect climate change and the general state of the environment compared to OTL?
Climate change is happening faster due to having more population and industrialized countries in it ; the population here has overpassed the 8 billion threshold, mostly due to the absence of Chinese single-child policy.
Do the genocides mentioned create a stigma against doing the same thing like the OTL Holocaust or do people in this world not really care? How bad is the Sinophobia like are there major politicians advocating for full scale expulsions and ethnic cleansing?
Alas, genocides are seen as a tragedy but they're not fully adressed, being compared to mere ethnic cleansings and wartime massacres, in the like of the Armenian Genocide. For example, antisemitism is still a big thing. They are some politicians, some in power, who push for population transfers and ethnic cleansings, but they try not to showcase it.
 

ahmedali

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Independent Georgia existed for some time. As of Russia, it has to do with the troubles that followed the Great European War.

Moscow became again the capital of Russia in the 1930s, but Petrograd still thrives. Nowadays they're still blooming and their development is comparable to OTL London and Paris.





It was a bit of my choice to have the Moroccan royals being kicked out in this alternate TL and Oufkir, due to his deceitfulness and ambition, sounded like an able Moroccan expansionist and enlightened dictator, preaching against Europe yet aligning himself on them.



I have plans for Blair, but he never rose to prominence ITTL.

Climate change is happening faster due to having more population and industrialized countries in it ; the population here has overpassed the 8 billion threshold, mostly due to the absence of Chinese single-child policy.

Alas, genocides are seen as a tragedy but they're not fully adressed, being compared to mere ethnic cleansings and wartime massacres, in the like of the Armenian Genocide. For example, antisemitism is still a big thing. They are some politicians, some in power, who push for population transfers and ethnic cleansings, but they try not to showcase it.
I am an Arab and I witnessed military dictatorships in the Arab world



None of them ever succeeded in developing and modernizing their countries



On the contrary, they caused it to deteriorate into failed states. The future of Morocco as a republic is very bleak, while the kingdoms of the Arab world have succeeded in modernizing and developing their countries.



(Lebanon and Tunisia succeeded as two republics because the first had a western demographic orientation and the second because the first Tunisian president was an Arab version of Ataturk, but he succeeded in what Ataturk failed in, which is to tame the army and make civilians strong)



(Let us pray for the restoration of the Moroccan monarchy similar to France's restoration of the Orléans dynasty in this timeline)



Is Georgia a monarchy with the Bagration dynasty, Hohenzollern, or is it a republic?



Russia's future looks very bright (does Putin have a role in politics on this timeline or does the Tsarina dislike him)



Sadly things like genocide and racism haven't gone away
 
I really enjoyed what I've read thus far, it's all terrifically done and the timeline you have added makes the way the world deviates from our own very interesting. I did post a message earlier but deleted it because I thought I had stumbled onto a locked thread. As it stands, for whatever strange and bizarre reason, I had this thread on ignore! Not a clue why, this is one of my favourites to read.
 
Hello, 2021 is coming to an end, and believe it or not, this timeline is still going strong ! Its writing and publication have been chaotic at times, but still, the research, writing are still going strong. I will be busy these days, as I undertake a new job, but for 2022, I can promise you at least the article on the Great European War, the World War, the completion of country profiles and more updates on the ongoing events that will happen in 2022. Thanks to all for your likes and questions, you greatly help.


Very based ngl. I love these sorta alternate migrations resulting in alternate careers sorta thing.
There will be more !
I am an Arab and I witnessed military dictatorships in the Arab world



None of them ever succeeded in developing and modernizing their countries



On the contrary, they caused it to deteriorate into failed states. The future of Morocco as a republic is very bleak, while the kingdoms of the Arab world have succeeded in modernizing and developing their countries.



(Lebanon and Tunisia succeeded as two republics because the first had a western demographic orientation and the second because the first Tunisian president was an Arab version of Ataturk, but he succeeded in what Ataturk failed in, which is to tame the army and make civilians strong)



(Let us pray for the restoration of the Moroccan monarchy similar to France's restoration of the Orléans dynasty in this timeline)



Is Georgia a monarchy with the Bagration dynasty, Hohenzollern, or is it a republic?



Russia's future looks very bright (does Putin have a role in politics on this timeline or does the Tsarina dislike him)



Sadly things like genocide and racism haven't gone away
Sorry for your bad experiences in the Arab World. At it is, the Middle East and Maghreb have had different trajectories, and even if this world was very succesful for monarchy, I wanted to underline the different trajectories of different countries.
Georgia was a short-lived monarchy under the Hohenzollerns, and Vladimir Putin is currently head of the Russian Intelligence Agency.
I really enjoyed what I've read thus far, it's all terrifically done and the timeline you have added makes the way the world deviates from our own very interesting. I did post a message earlier but deleted it because I thought I had stumbled onto a locked thread. As it stands, for whatever strange and bizarre reason, I had this thread on ignore! Not a clue why, this is one of my favourites to read.
Thank you very much and so nice to have you back.
What happened to papa doc in this timeline @MaskedPickle ?



He never rose to prominence. Haiti is faring much better in this world.
How many people did the CWR kill in total during their rampages/purges and any prominent victims of their purges?
The details are coming next year ;)
 

ahmedali

Banned
Hello, 2021 is coming to an end, and believe it or not, this timeline is still going strong ! Its writing and publication have been chaotic at times, but still, the research, writing are still going strong. I will be busy these days, as I undertake a new job, but for 2022, I can promise you at least the article on the Great European War, the World War, the completion of country profiles and more updates on the ongoing events that will happen in 2022. Thanks to all for your likes and questions, you greatly help.



There will be more !

Sorry for your bad experiences in the Arab World. At it is, the Middle East and Maghreb have had different trajectories, and even if this world was very succesful for monarchy, I wanted to underline the different trajectories of different countries.
Georgia was a short-lived monarchy under the Hohenzollerns, and Vladimir Putin is currently head of the Russian Intelligence Agency.

Thank you very much and so nice to have you back.

He never rose to prominence. Haiti is faring much better in this world.

The details are coming next year ;)
Happy New Year in advance


do not worry


I respect your choice of ways in this alternate world in general it looks very cool


(I am from the Yemen which witnessed the worst republican rule and which in your timeline is part of the Hashemite Kingdom of Arabia)



Well now Georgia is a republic where the monarchy was overthrown because it was too German


(It seems that neither the Bagritoni nor the Makhzen accepted the Georgians because they seemed too Russian)


Ah that's cool


(Why do I feel there will be another anti-government coup in Russia by Putin given that the Russian Empire in this alternate reality is similar to Thailand where there are unstable military coups but everyone, whether military dictators or pro-democracy loyal to the Tsar as the Thai king)


Do you intend to grant Ukraine and Kazakhstan independence? (I am fascinated by the Ukraine ruled by the Hetmans and Cossacks)


Can we see an independent Corsica with Bonaparte as Emperor of Corsica or is that difficult?
 
I hope your Christmas was excellent if you celebrate it, maskedpickle.

Quick question on the bombing of Vladivostok. It was Central Asian Islamists behind the attack, but who was the mastermind which plotted and ordered the strike?

They are separate??
Yes. European War was the 1910s, World War was the 1940s.

What is CWR??
The Confederation of the Workers' Republics.
 
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