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What If beating of Rodney King not just caused 1992 LA riots
But sparked the nationwide racial movement and protest like OTL 2020? (This is at the edge of current politics I know, so I asking for the impact of 1990s only, don't really bring 2020 events into the picture)
What would TTL 1990s looks like?
But sparked the nationwide racial movement and protest like OTL 2020? (This is at the edge of current politics I know, so I asking for the impact of 1990s only, don't really bring 2020 events into the picture)
What would TTL 1990s looks like?
How would a socialist America (democratic or dictatorial like the USSR) screw it up?
Well, Communist countries (USSR, Maoist China, and so on) tend to turn around and contrive all sorts of reasons to brutalize minorities.
Not sure what a DemSoc USSA would do, exactly, but I bet a dictatorial USSA would mirror OTL Communists in that regard. Maybe we got lucky IOTL, having never had to leave it up to a coin toss between the first option and the second.
Probably depends on the specific faction/leader that takes over but generally American communists and socialists were highly in favor of full civil rights for racial minorities.
If it is democratic, in theory they could do better.
In practice, we will probably see a rewrite of "Jim Crow in red paint" where the Communist Party of America talks about the existence of "progressive races" and "reactionary races" that "coincidentally" align very closely with the racial categories of the "pre-revolutionary capitalist regime".
Or they could go completely like a story I can't remember the name of... and create their own version of "martial races" where minorities are used as shock troops to "crush the reactionaries" and prove their loyalty to the regime.
Considering that custom and international law establish that the Russian Empire is the predecessor of Russia, and that it was considered Russia during its time of existence, considering them to be the same is not just something the Russians have pulled out of their asses.
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Sounds almost like the reverse of The Turner Diaries. Races the author hated are used bybthe regime in the novel to oppress the white population.
Yes, I also found it quite unpleasant when I saw that part. The worst thing is that the commentators defended it as justice when what seemed like the regime was simply committing acts of random terrorist violence using minorities to avoid getting their hands dirty... and now that you mention it, yes, it does seem similar too much to that, ugh.
I was wondering if anybody knows any plausible PoDs to unite the lowlands, or at least most of it, under the Netherlands post-1910 in a world where WW1 doesn't come to pass?
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I found this interesting little tidbit on Wikipedia that is exactly what you are talking about.
The source for this is a Belgian article that is locked behind a pay wall so I only have this to work off of but still it is quite interesting that the Netherlands was planning to possibly invade Belgium back in 1919.
The Triads being more militarized would be the most noticeable impact.
Though ATL HK probably wouldn't be recognizable to OTL, since that would get rid of OLT HK's laissez faire economy (you'd have to spend a lot of money on defense, not to mention taking the entire, say 18-22 year old male population, out of economic circulation)
Also, I assume the conscripts are just being used for territorial defense?
I sort of assumed that the British would foot the bill, somehow. At least partially. But maybe it would be a limited national service with very generous exceptions, like Taiwan's modern joke of conscription?
I suppose so. I'm not sure why Singapore has compulsory service, for instance.
If you can read Dutch, you can read more detail here: https://journalbelgianhistory.be/en/system/files/article_pdf/008_DeWaele_chtp01.pdf
From the article. Ignoring the fact there is a guy called Burger that's pretty interesting, looks like Belgium being the aggressor had some precedent on that wiki page, considering their King wanted to invade decades prior as well. Never knew there was that much beef, lol.
From the article linked about the 1854 preparations which lost steam due to Napoleon not backing it.
Wonder if anything would've pushed Belgium to make a move on their claims without WW1 and if anything could've instigated a real conflict between the two that might see a Belgium annexation and partition?
Simple. Make the Belgian ultranationalists consider that getting Rwanda-Burundi is a small reward for everything they went through in the First World War.
As they begin to believe they "deserve" greater compensation, he adds that they believe Holland should have been punished for its neutrality ("They lived well while we starved and were murdered by the Germans").
The result of this is a Belgium that believes it deserves to possess the Dutch colonies and be compensated territorially at Holland's expense to "punish" Holland for her neutrality and "compensate" Belgium for the "mutilated victory" they gained.
Of course, I don't think this will end well if Belgium decides to attack the Netherlands...
Would a surviving Ottoman Empire be possible with a post-1900 POD, or were the problems that led to it's downfall already too far advanced by that point?
Kinda secondary and ignoring lots of butterflies - would the Ottomans be under the same decolonization pressure 1950s Europeans felt with Africa or was their relationship with sub-territories (Syria for example) too different to be reasonably compared?
Kinda secondary and ignoring lots of butterflies - would the Ottomans be under the same decolonization pressure 1950s Europeans felt with Africa or was their relationship with sub-territories (Syria for example) too different to be reasonably compared?
On the campaign trail of the 1912 Presidential Election, John Schrank stalked and ultimately shot former President Theodore Roosevelt who was in the process of giving a speech. The only reason why Roosevelt wasn’t fatally injured was due to his glasses case and speech providing enough protection to stop the bullet from being fatal.
But… what if Schrank had been luckier and managed to kill the Bull Moose? What would the end result be on the campaign itself? What would the reactions be from both Taft and Wilson? Is there an emergency meeting with the Republicans and Progressives to try and hammer out a coalition putting Hiram Johnson on as Taft’s running mate?
But… what if Schrank had been luckier and managed to kill the Bull Moose? What would the end result be on the campaign itself? What would the reactions be from both Taft and Wilson? Is there an emergency meeting with the Republicans and Progressives to try and hammer out a coalition putting Hiram Johnson on as Taft’s running mate?