Depending on how much Henry would care about a illegitimate daughter when he had two princes and maybe Catherine will pop out another child in the future. She still has a couple of years left. Not much thou.
The Prince of the Roses - A Tudor TL
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That's why i hope for a son. Henry would take it as further prove of his virility, give him an adequate title (earldom of richdom maybe) and make damn sure he is utterly lotal to ned and hal. Most of all ned
He has two princes at this point, his virility isn't gonna be questioned. But as I said, we just have to wait.
She does! Two bouncing boys for herself and England. Her Hapsburg relatives are in chaos and her imperial nephew and niece died and France is gleefully stepping on everyone, but goddamn it if Catherine didn't get two sons!
His nuts still have some use in this story. You'll see.
Chapter 5 - 1519
Chapter 5 – 1519
Henry and Catherine would not return to London until March of 1519 as the plague disappeared at the in the end of December. The city greeted them with great cheers as it was their first time appearing there and more gifts arrived, for baby Hal that came with them and jewelled brooches and rings for Catherine, while Henry got a splendid white horse and a fine bow and quiver of arrows by the aldermen, as he delighted in hunting.
The king immediately gathered his council upon their return, to carefully monitor the development in the Low Countries. Flemish and Danish forces, along with additional english soldiers that had been sent to Calais had beaten back the French at the border of Artois, but Picardy had been taken and the estates in Burgundy and the Franche-Comté had decided to throw their lot in with the Valois, as they did not wish to become ruled by the Danish. Furthermore, many in Burgundy felt a greater familiarity with their French neighbours than their absent Dutch rulers and the prospect of being governed by Spain was even worse. In June the Burgundian cities opened their gates to Odet de Foix and submitted to their new liege, as Francis himself entered the city and gave a regal display of proclaiming amnesty for the leaders of the city to general acclaims. He also ensured that food would be sent into the cities to feed the starved populace and secured the remaining ducal officials still loyal to the dutch, several whom ended up as hostages, while others ended up facing the executioner’s axe as a warning.
The fall of the Burgundian heartlands caused the Estates General to urge Christian and Isabella to make peace with France at last. Christian’s initial success in getting Danish aid to his wife’s cause had started to run out as the Danish government wanted peace with France and began to withhold aid, unless a peace treaty was signed. Christian’s uncle, Frederick had also become an opponent of the union, claiming that soon all of Denmark and Norway would be ruled by the Dutch that would drain the coffers of the kingdoms in order to fight their vainglorious wars against France. All of this forced Isabella and Christian to send for a truce in the fighting and to meet with the Francis in order to make peace. Isabella gashed her teeth by this, but her mood had already lifted in the end of May, as she gave birth to the son she desperately had longed for. John of Denmark and Austria had been named for his grandfather, but also for the old Dukes of Burgundy that had born the same names. Isabella had wished to name her son Philip for her late father, but John went well for both realms and regardless of the name, a son secured her position further and the dutch delegates once more gathered to her side. While Christian’s position in Denmark had become difficult, his standing in the low countries was far better, as he seemed far more suited to being their ruler.
Christian and Isabella, along with Margaret of Austria meet with King Francois and Anne, Duke of Montmorency in the city of Saint-Quentin to negotiate for the treaty that would end the war between their realms. Francis first demands was the hand of Margaret of Denmark and Austria for the Dauphin, and for the territories of Burgundy, Franche-Comté, Picardy and Vermandois as her dowry. In return he would acknowledge Isabella’s right to Flanders, Brabant, Hainault, Artois, Luxembourg and the counties of Holland and Zeeland and the Northen territories nearby. Isabella was infuriated over handing over so many territories and nearly walked out, but Christian managed to calm her down so that the negotiations would continue. Christian was prepared to accept those terms as long as Francis would take those realms instead of an additional cash dowry and instead sent a war repatriation to the dutch for his aggression. While Isabella was furious over the loss of her family’s land, Christian saw the reality of the situation. He also had to consider his tenuous standing in Denmark and the will of his own kingdom to make peace with France. This treaty would ensure that his uncle would not get any backing from Francis either, and that was crucial for him. Eventually Francis agreed to Christian’s terms and would send a sum of 400,000 francs as repatriation, while also removing all remaining soldiers from Luxembourg and Artois. Little Margaret was to be handed over to France at once to be raised in court alongside her toddling future spouse. The betrothal to Edward of England had been broken and Christian sent a delegation and ships to bring his daughter to the Low Countries from Copenhagen two weeks later. It would take more then three months before Margaret arrived in the port of Middleburg in Zeeland, but Francis was prepared to wait, knowing that a sea voyage could be perilous to a small toddler and since she was the lynchpin in this treaty, better it go slow then risking the prestigious tiny bride’s life. Margaret spent an additional three months in the Ghent while her trousseau was gathered to outfit her as a splendid bride. Not only would she bring valuable objects from Denmark, as well as furs, velvets and cloth of gold, but also treasures from Flanders. Tapestries from Tournai that had been displayed during the marriage of Charles the Bold and Margaret had been included and a verdure one displaying the arms of Burgundy had been packed for the trousseau, as well as gold, silver and coppery plates and dishes. Margaret also got a collection of books and paintings from her aunt and jewellery belonging to her grandmother Juana of Castile. As the princess was less then two years old, plenty of fabrics such as linens, silks, brocades and velvets was gathered to make clothes for her in the future and she got a truly impressive number of shoes in many sizes for her little feet’s sake.
Isabella delayed in sending her daughter over to the France, claiming that more journeys would be hazardous to her health, thus she was able to keep her daughter with her for the winter of 1519, but her excuses ran out in February, where she finally departed to the border where the handover would take place in the city of Guise. Margaret would be able to keep some of her Danish and Flemish attendants, such as her devoted nurse, but her entourage would be nearly all made up by French courtiers after she arrived in Blois where the dauphin also resided. At the age of two, Margaret had grown into a sturdy toddler with fine skin and coppery brown hair and dark grey eyes. Her nurses remarked that she was a delightful little girl and Francis boasted about her saying that “the dauphine never cries”.
England did not take the Treaty of Saint-Quentin very well. Not only had the betrothal by Margaret and Edward been tossed aside, but France had gained the lands of Picardy that laid near Calais, the last stronghold in France. Henry was furious by the betrayal and threatened to invade Picardy to drive the french away from the region, but parliament refused to authorise the levies of taxes for another war. Wolsey was also very intent on keeping his king from declaring war at France once more and urged him to seek peace with the Valois king. Henry had also gotten an offer for the eldest surviving daughter of Francis and Claude, Princess Charlotte, as she was the same age as Edward. Henry agreed on the betrothal in the winter, but he wasn’t fully ready to commit to it just yet. Catherine pushed for another match for Ned, instead, while Isabel of Braganza still remained an option as well.
In Spain, King Ferdinand VI of Castile and III of Aragon had finally married Isabella of Portugal in February of 1519. The infanta had crossed into Spain in the end of January where she had been greeted by the duke of Calabria and the duke of Béjar as well as the aged archbishop Cisneros, the architect of the marriage between her and Ferdinand. The men escorted her to Seville, where Ferdinand would arrive three days later. Their wedding took place two days later in the cathedral of Seville itself, packed to bursting with nobles, clerics, members of the Courtes and merchants of all kinds. The celebrations continued for several days, accompanied by fiestas and dancing, masses and bullfighting. Cisneros breathed a relief at the wedding, knowing that his efforts had finally born the fruit it was meant to. It also signified Ferdinand coming into his full adulthood and him taking the full reign of government in his hands and Isabella quickly became steadfast advisor as well as loving spouse. She managed to soothe his worries over the treaty of Saint-Quentin that stole Ferdinand’s Burgundian inheritance in favour of his sister and niece. For the first year of his reign, he depended much on the advice of Cisneros and the archbishop of Zaragosa, but as they year progressed, he became more independent and started to take his own prerogatives. The whole kingdom erupted in joy as in the December while the court had taken up residence in the Alcazar of Segovia. The queen was delivered of a fine and healthy son just before Christmas. The birth of a prince could not have been a better end to the year and while many suspected that Ferdinand would name his son for one of his Hapsburg ancestors, the king showed his Castilian pride and the infant was baptised as Juan instead.
One spot of sorrow darkened the last days of 1519, as the Archbishop of Toledo passed away on the 29th. Francisco Jiménez de Cisneros had risen from humble beginnings to become cardinal, archbishop and later regent for Castile and his death was mourned in the whole of the kingdom. Between the death of Isabella and the chaotic time that had followed after the death of Philip and the sickening of Juana I, the regency of Ferdinand and shock from the death of Charles and Eleanor, Cisneros had been the most steadfast man in Spain. His efforts had thwarted rebellions, founded a university, and safeguarded the crowns power until Ferdinand came of age. His final triumph had been the alliance with Portugal and the resulting marriage that had resulted in Prince Juan. To Spain he left an adult sovereign prepared to undertake the great effort of ruling the three realms and to fulfil the vision that Isabel I and Ferdinand II had of their kingdom’s future. His death was immensely mourned by Ferdinand and Isabella and the king uttered the words:
“He saved the whole future of these kingdoms and prevented the realms from being infested by carrion birds and foreign vultures that would feed of the rich lifeblood of Castile for their own prosperity.”
England saw their own Prince in 1519, as Edward, Duke of Cornwall became invested as Prince of Wales in a glittering December ceremony. At the age of three he had become a tall and strong boy for his age, running his nurses ragged with his boundless energy. Henry was beaming with pride at the sight of his son, the very image of himself with a thick mop of coppery hair and a smattering of freckles. His brother would be named as Duke of York at the same ceremony, both children being named as knights of the Garter as well.
Edward and Henry was not the only children of the king at this time. Their sister, Elizabeth Fitzroy was baby still in the cradle. Bessie Blount had not born a son, but a daughter to the king in 1519. While Henry was happy about the birth of his little girl, his pride was mostly focused on his sons, as they would be the true heirs to his kingdom. Bessie received an allowance from the king instead, and as well a chest stuffed full with fabrics and coppery dishes as a gift. Her father received a pair of horses and a pouch of gold coins, as a condition for him to take care of little Elizabeth. He also ordered Wolsey to keep track of his daughter from time to time and to make sure nothing was amiss in her early years. Elizabeth would later enter court when she had gotten older and her mother married well, with the king’s permission, but that was the end of her tenure as his mistress. Another lady would later become the king’s sweetheart. Her entrance in court would come after the new year.
In that December, Isabella of Austria would announce her third pregnancy to the Flemish court in Bruges where she resided. Her husband intended to leave in January for his own kingdom in Denmark where his uncle had grown even bolder, despite Isabella’s protest. Little John would remain with his mother in the Low Countries, safely ensconced in Malines in his great-aunt’s care. Isabella herself was unwilling to leave Flanders and the estates refused to let her leave. Christian intended to retake Denmark and Norway and to finally claim the Crown of Sweden. This would continue the Kalmar Union that his father had worked for his entire life. The estates had been reluctant to see him leave the Low Countries, but granted him money and men to take with him to Copenhagen and wished him success with his endeavour in Scandinavia. The king of France had actually upheld his part of the treaty and had given Christian access to French resources and a handful of ships against his uncle. He had also made clear that he considered Frederick’s claim to the throne illegitimate and that Christian had his full support.
The king said a tearful goodbye to his queen in Middleburg on the 17th of January upon his departure and wished her the best in governing Flanders and that she would raise their son to become a mighty prince for the three crowns of the north and the Flemish lands. He also asked for the virgin’s blessing for the unborn child that Isabella was carrying in her womb and hours later he boarded the boats that would take him back to Denmark. Isabella remained at the harbour, wrapped in velvets and furs against the icy cold, keeping her gaze on the fading sails of her husband’s ships until they had disappeared over the horizon. If anyone noted the tears in her eyes, she could blame it on the chilly winds that sweep in from the North sea.
Isabella of Austria, Queen of Denmark and Norway and Duchess of the Low Countries.
Author's Note: So France really got the greatest deal in this marriage and the Burgundians lost many territories. But the heartlands of the Low Countries are still in their hands. Henry is pissed of that France stole little Maggie right from underneath their nose and snatched Picardy as well. In spain things are going much better and Ferdinand and Isabella has a son now! Farewell to Cisneros thou!
Henry and Catherine would not return to London until March of 1519 as the plague disappeared at the in the end of December. The city greeted them with great cheers as it was their first time appearing there and more gifts arrived, for baby Hal that came with them and jewelled brooches and rings for Catherine, while Henry got a splendid white horse and a fine bow and quiver of arrows by the aldermen, as he delighted in hunting.
The king immediately gathered his council upon their return, to carefully monitor the development in the Low Countries. Flemish and Danish forces, along with additional english soldiers that had been sent to Calais had beaten back the French at the border of Artois, but Picardy had been taken and the estates in Burgundy and the Franche-Comté had decided to throw their lot in with the Valois, as they did not wish to become ruled by the Danish. Furthermore, many in Burgundy felt a greater familiarity with their French neighbours than their absent Dutch rulers and the prospect of being governed by Spain was even worse. In June the Burgundian cities opened their gates to Odet de Foix and submitted to their new liege, as Francis himself entered the city and gave a regal display of proclaiming amnesty for the leaders of the city to general acclaims. He also ensured that food would be sent into the cities to feed the starved populace and secured the remaining ducal officials still loyal to the dutch, several whom ended up as hostages, while others ended up facing the executioner’s axe as a warning.
The fall of the Burgundian heartlands caused the Estates General to urge Christian and Isabella to make peace with France at last. Christian’s initial success in getting Danish aid to his wife’s cause had started to run out as the Danish government wanted peace with France and began to withhold aid, unless a peace treaty was signed. Christian’s uncle, Frederick had also become an opponent of the union, claiming that soon all of Denmark and Norway would be ruled by the Dutch that would drain the coffers of the kingdoms in order to fight their vainglorious wars against France. All of this forced Isabella and Christian to send for a truce in the fighting and to meet with the Francis in order to make peace. Isabella gashed her teeth by this, but her mood had already lifted in the end of May, as she gave birth to the son she desperately had longed for. John of Denmark and Austria had been named for his grandfather, but also for the old Dukes of Burgundy that had born the same names. Isabella had wished to name her son Philip for her late father, but John went well for both realms and regardless of the name, a son secured her position further and the dutch delegates once more gathered to her side. While Christian’s position in Denmark had become difficult, his standing in the low countries was far better, as he seemed far more suited to being their ruler.
Christian and Isabella, along with Margaret of Austria meet with King Francois and Anne, Duke of Montmorency in the city of Saint-Quentin to negotiate for the treaty that would end the war between their realms. Francis first demands was the hand of Margaret of Denmark and Austria for the Dauphin, and for the territories of Burgundy, Franche-Comté, Picardy and Vermandois as her dowry. In return he would acknowledge Isabella’s right to Flanders, Brabant, Hainault, Artois, Luxembourg and the counties of Holland and Zeeland and the Northen territories nearby. Isabella was infuriated over handing over so many territories and nearly walked out, but Christian managed to calm her down so that the negotiations would continue. Christian was prepared to accept those terms as long as Francis would take those realms instead of an additional cash dowry and instead sent a war repatriation to the dutch for his aggression. While Isabella was furious over the loss of her family’s land, Christian saw the reality of the situation. He also had to consider his tenuous standing in Denmark and the will of his own kingdom to make peace with France. This treaty would ensure that his uncle would not get any backing from Francis either, and that was crucial for him. Eventually Francis agreed to Christian’s terms and would send a sum of 400,000 francs as repatriation, while also removing all remaining soldiers from Luxembourg and Artois. Little Margaret was to be handed over to France at once to be raised in court alongside her toddling future spouse. The betrothal to Edward of England had been broken and Christian sent a delegation and ships to bring his daughter to the Low Countries from Copenhagen two weeks later. It would take more then three months before Margaret arrived in the port of Middleburg in Zeeland, but Francis was prepared to wait, knowing that a sea voyage could be perilous to a small toddler and since she was the lynchpin in this treaty, better it go slow then risking the prestigious tiny bride’s life. Margaret spent an additional three months in the Ghent while her trousseau was gathered to outfit her as a splendid bride. Not only would she bring valuable objects from Denmark, as well as furs, velvets and cloth of gold, but also treasures from Flanders. Tapestries from Tournai that had been displayed during the marriage of Charles the Bold and Margaret had been included and a verdure one displaying the arms of Burgundy had been packed for the trousseau, as well as gold, silver and coppery plates and dishes. Margaret also got a collection of books and paintings from her aunt and jewellery belonging to her grandmother Juana of Castile. As the princess was less then two years old, plenty of fabrics such as linens, silks, brocades and velvets was gathered to make clothes for her in the future and she got a truly impressive number of shoes in many sizes for her little feet’s sake.
Isabella delayed in sending her daughter over to the France, claiming that more journeys would be hazardous to her health, thus she was able to keep her daughter with her for the winter of 1519, but her excuses ran out in February, where she finally departed to the border where the handover would take place in the city of Guise. Margaret would be able to keep some of her Danish and Flemish attendants, such as her devoted nurse, but her entourage would be nearly all made up by French courtiers after she arrived in Blois where the dauphin also resided. At the age of two, Margaret had grown into a sturdy toddler with fine skin and coppery brown hair and dark grey eyes. Her nurses remarked that she was a delightful little girl and Francis boasted about her saying that “the dauphine never cries”.
England did not take the Treaty of Saint-Quentin very well. Not only had the betrothal by Margaret and Edward been tossed aside, but France had gained the lands of Picardy that laid near Calais, the last stronghold in France. Henry was furious by the betrayal and threatened to invade Picardy to drive the french away from the region, but parliament refused to authorise the levies of taxes for another war. Wolsey was also very intent on keeping his king from declaring war at France once more and urged him to seek peace with the Valois king. Henry had also gotten an offer for the eldest surviving daughter of Francis and Claude, Princess Charlotte, as she was the same age as Edward. Henry agreed on the betrothal in the winter, but he wasn’t fully ready to commit to it just yet. Catherine pushed for another match for Ned, instead, while Isabel of Braganza still remained an option as well.
In Spain, King Ferdinand VI of Castile and III of Aragon had finally married Isabella of Portugal in February of 1519. The infanta had crossed into Spain in the end of January where she had been greeted by the duke of Calabria and the duke of Béjar as well as the aged archbishop Cisneros, the architect of the marriage between her and Ferdinand. The men escorted her to Seville, where Ferdinand would arrive three days later. Their wedding took place two days later in the cathedral of Seville itself, packed to bursting with nobles, clerics, members of the Courtes and merchants of all kinds. The celebrations continued for several days, accompanied by fiestas and dancing, masses and bullfighting. Cisneros breathed a relief at the wedding, knowing that his efforts had finally born the fruit it was meant to. It also signified Ferdinand coming into his full adulthood and him taking the full reign of government in his hands and Isabella quickly became steadfast advisor as well as loving spouse. She managed to soothe his worries over the treaty of Saint-Quentin that stole Ferdinand’s Burgundian inheritance in favour of his sister and niece. For the first year of his reign, he depended much on the advice of Cisneros and the archbishop of Zaragosa, but as they year progressed, he became more independent and started to take his own prerogatives. The whole kingdom erupted in joy as in the December while the court had taken up residence in the Alcazar of Segovia. The queen was delivered of a fine and healthy son just before Christmas. The birth of a prince could not have been a better end to the year and while many suspected that Ferdinand would name his son for one of his Hapsburg ancestors, the king showed his Castilian pride and the infant was baptised as Juan instead.
One spot of sorrow darkened the last days of 1519, as the Archbishop of Toledo passed away on the 29th. Francisco Jiménez de Cisneros had risen from humble beginnings to become cardinal, archbishop and later regent for Castile and his death was mourned in the whole of the kingdom. Between the death of Isabella and the chaotic time that had followed after the death of Philip and the sickening of Juana I, the regency of Ferdinand and shock from the death of Charles and Eleanor, Cisneros had been the most steadfast man in Spain. His efforts had thwarted rebellions, founded a university, and safeguarded the crowns power until Ferdinand came of age. His final triumph had been the alliance with Portugal and the resulting marriage that had resulted in Prince Juan. To Spain he left an adult sovereign prepared to undertake the great effort of ruling the three realms and to fulfil the vision that Isabel I and Ferdinand II had of their kingdom’s future. His death was immensely mourned by Ferdinand and Isabella and the king uttered the words:
“He saved the whole future of these kingdoms and prevented the realms from being infested by carrion birds and foreign vultures that would feed of the rich lifeblood of Castile for their own prosperity.”
England saw their own Prince in 1519, as Edward, Duke of Cornwall became invested as Prince of Wales in a glittering December ceremony. At the age of three he had become a tall and strong boy for his age, running his nurses ragged with his boundless energy. Henry was beaming with pride at the sight of his son, the very image of himself with a thick mop of coppery hair and a smattering of freckles. His brother would be named as Duke of York at the same ceremony, both children being named as knights of the Garter as well.
Edward and Henry was not the only children of the king at this time. Their sister, Elizabeth Fitzroy was baby still in the cradle. Bessie Blount had not born a son, but a daughter to the king in 1519. While Henry was happy about the birth of his little girl, his pride was mostly focused on his sons, as they would be the true heirs to his kingdom. Bessie received an allowance from the king instead, and as well a chest stuffed full with fabrics and coppery dishes as a gift. Her father received a pair of horses and a pouch of gold coins, as a condition for him to take care of little Elizabeth. He also ordered Wolsey to keep track of his daughter from time to time and to make sure nothing was amiss in her early years. Elizabeth would later enter court when she had gotten older and her mother married well, with the king’s permission, but that was the end of her tenure as his mistress. Another lady would later become the king’s sweetheart. Her entrance in court would come after the new year.
In that December, Isabella of Austria would announce her third pregnancy to the Flemish court in Bruges where she resided. Her husband intended to leave in January for his own kingdom in Denmark where his uncle had grown even bolder, despite Isabella’s protest. Little John would remain with his mother in the Low Countries, safely ensconced in Malines in his great-aunt’s care. Isabella herself was unwilling to leave Flanders and the estates refused to let her leave. Christian intended to retake Denmark and Norway and to finally claim the Crown of Sweden. This would continue the Kalmar Union that his father had worked for his entire life. The estates had been reluctant to see him leave the Low Countries, but granted him money and men to take with him to Copenhagen and wished him success with his endeavour in Scandinavia. The king of France had actually upheld his part of the treaty and had given Christian access to French resources and a handful of ships against his uncle. He had also made clear that he considered Frederick’s claim to the throne illegitimate and that Christian had his full support.
The king said a tearful goodbye to his queen in Middleburg on the 17th of January upon his departure and wished her the best in governing Flanders and that she would raise their son to become a mighty prince for the three crowns of the north and the Flemish lands. He also asked for the virgin’s blessing for the unborn child that Isabella was carrying in her womb and hours later he boarded the boats that would take him back to Denmark. Isabella remained at the harbour, wrapped in velvets and furs against the icy cold, keeping her gaze on the fading sails of her husband’s ships until they had disappeared over the horizon. If anyone noted the tears in her eyes, she could blame it on the chilly winds that sweep in from the North sea.
Isabella of Austria, Queen of Denmark and Norway and Duchess of the Low Countries.
Author's Note: So France really got the greatest deal in this marriage and the Burgundians lost many territories. But the heartlands of the Low Countries are still in their hands. Henry is pissed of that France stole little Maggie right from underneath their nose and snatched Picardy as well. In spain things are going much better and Ferdinand and Isabella has a son now! Farewell to Cisneros thou!
The partition of the Low Countries after the Treaty of Saint-Quentin in 1519. Red is the Hapsburgs and the blue is France. Green are rebellious areas.
So, Ferdinand and Isabella 2.0 are doing well in Spain and have an heir. Good things! A shame that Isabella and Christian had to give up so much, especially Vermandois and Picardy, but at least Francis will leave them alone for now. Now Christian is also free to focus on the north. I am sure that will go splendidly! (Panics in Danish) At least he and Isabella have a healthy heir and another child on the way. I wonder what’s going on in Austria
Henry has a daughter! I am sure that lady Elizabeth FitzRoy will be important somehow. Also nice to see both of the sons doing well
Henry has a daughter! I am sure that lady Elizabeth FitzRoy will be important somehow. Also nice to see both of the sons doing well
I’m thinking Mary Boleyn here
We shall see what happens to Christian. His evil uncle is lurking around.
Little Bess has a long way to go before she gets to the altar.
Spain is celebrating so hard right now!
I didn't think that Francis would let to of those realms since they are nearest to the french border. I was very kind in letting Isabella/Christian keep Luxembourg, originally I planned for that to go to France as well.
As for Christian's nordic adventure, he had some problems here. Charles V isn't bankrolling him, and the danish estates are not entirely please with the kingdoms resources going to the flemish. And the absence of the queen in denmark isn't gonna help him either. Plus would sweden want to be joined and ruled by the danish and the dutch? Not to mention his uncle becoming a beacon for anti-christian rebellions. But John is with his mother.
Henry has a bastard daughter and two princes at this point. I'm sure she will, or maybe not. Ned and Hal are doing just fine and Ned has a new shiny palace to run around in at Wales.
Nope, actually. Not her.
Hmmmm, we shall see what happens between Frederick and Christian.
And spain is throwing fiestas all over the place.
Can't wait.
And For good reason! Hope Ferdinand and Isa have plenty of spares too!
Since Ferdinand isn't gonna go jumping all over europe in this tl and she married at the age of 16-17 instead of 23 , Isabella is gonna have more time and relaxation to have more children as she's not gonna be burdened by regencies and such.