Check out Kentucky Fried Politics. In that timeline he ends up being a popular well-liked pro-labour union leader in the Senate, kinda similar to Dick Gephardt in the House, and was chosen as the Vice President candidate for the Democratic candidate, I can't remember her name for the life of me, and served for one term from 1989 to 1993 (I think).
America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond
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Thank you very much. I hope you like the latest update and will be happy to take comments and suggestions on it and whatnot
I think the update looks pretty cool. Will NeXT overtake Apple in the future/the present in our timeline or fizzle out like it did in our timeline?
It wasn’t profitable OTL, but it did a lot of big things and when Apple brought Jobs back in, he replaced a lot of the Apple guys with their NeXT counterparts.
They technically did overtake Apple... so hard they took their name
In MaskedPickle's A Giant Sucking Sound Steve Jobs' NeXT becomes much more prominent after Apple falls into bankruptcy or something and by the present day the NeXT phone is the most popular cell phone by far and NeXT Search is the most widely used search engine on the internet instead of Google since Microsoft went out of business or something (I vaguely recall a Supreme Court case or something like that that put them out of business).
I don’t think NeXT would’ve gone in that direction unless they bought Apple. From what I read, their focus prior to their acquisition by Apple, they would've focused on developing WebObjects as part of their switch to focus on software. Plus, I wonder what court case could’ve screwed with Microsoft that bad since I don’t think their 1999 case would’ve spelled their doom
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With the FSF getting up and running, will a certain future University of Helsinki student start work on his OS kernel about 6 years down the line?
1985 Overview
1985 Overview
1985 was a massive year of change. The second Udall term started with a massive bang in new changes and hope for the future within the United States. The 27th United State amendment would be introduced and successfully passed, giving a massive victory for those supporting the original Equal Rights Amendment and beyond, giving a new fuel to the fire regarding third-wave feminism and the greater aspirations they had along with the further challenges they needed to face. The United States would take up judicial arms against another set of companies once more, this time none other than the oil industry and more broadly, all of fossil fuels. The revelation that Exxon and several others conspired to defraud and deceive the American public about the negative effects of fossil fuel usage by suppressing and obfuscating information about manmade climate change would be a colossal wakeup call. Exxon and the others' attempts have backfired. The truth is out to the open and their own greed-motivated rackets was a large reason why since people would rightfully believe this is sort of the behavior large companies like them would do. This would rejuvenate the environmental movement, especially on ecofriendly infrstructure and housing developments that started back in the late 1970s and continued in the early 1980s, now becoming widely mainstream and starting many various trends. Most notably would be a massive plan to electrify America's rail system, one that has grow bigger with the US government having purchased more and more lines over time, especially as they have become profitable to do so and with said electricity to be provided with the development of many new nuclear power plants, a plan that would take decades to finish, but would become another great accomplishment for them. Lastly, there would be none other than the Washington DC Conference, focusing on the troubles and needs of gays, lesbians and other non-heterosexuals, or as they would come to be called, the SATMIN community. The Vice President's support along with that of Loretta Scott King also served to be a lage moment of introspection for the African-American community as they would begin having to wrestle with the neglect of their own SATMIN people and the rammificiations of having to face that.
Outside of the United States, many other grand events were happening. The rise of Mikhail Gorbachev within the Soviet Union signaled another turning point in relations between the two superpowers; to the relief of everyone, these were amicable and positive, with Gorbachev being viewed as more moderate, leading to the hopes of long-term peace plans between the two. Additonally, Gorbachev was noted for having reformist tendencies and the hope for long-term peace between the two superpowers seemed larger than ever as various deals were discussed between the two, with Gorbachev noted some potential ideas along with discussions with China. Meanwhile, Iran’s victory in Iraq cemented it as a regional power and a rising star. They have begun further mending their relationship with the Americans and Europe. With Iraq with a more friendly government and the creation of Kurdistan, Iran began establishing a sphere of influence. They have even made peaceful relations over with Israel and Jordan, improving matters on both ends. However, the situation remained complicated with their rival, Saudi Arabia; while the Mosque attack and influence from President Reagan would lead to the monarchy doubling down on modernizing and clamping down on the radicals, the presence of the Wahhabism and their ties to the House of Saud remained a concern and thus led to Iran working to limit their influence, even appealing to the Americans for assistance over the upcoming years, citing the Wahhabists as being like the 'Neo-Munafiqs' and a threat to both their interests. Syria meanwhile became nervous over the Iran's flexing of their muscle and concerned they were next. However, there was not much concern for the time-being and Iran's interests in Syria laid more in the economical, namely the coast of the Mediterranean, though the queston of Syrian Kurds remained lingering. Though nothing was more of a hotspot of tension than Iran and Turkey. The military government over in Turkey seemed to double down and tighten its grip; the creation of Kurdistan has lead to a open wave of rebellion and support in the Kurdish regions of Turkey. It seemed like it would be a queston of not if, but when. In Iran's case, while it was partially the case on the Kurds, here it would be a rare opportunity to further grow their influence and assert further regional dominance.
Culturally, significant factors would come about here. The 27th Amendment and the Conference would lead to growing importance in showing the struggles of the youth, especially young women and non-heterosexuals within the media. One large example of it was in The Breakfast Club, a film focusing on five different high schoolers stuck with one another during "morning detention" over a period of Saturdays. Over the course of the film, they bond despite their large differences and see the similarities, namely the struggles against the expectations of their parents and also their own secrets. Notably, one of the actors and one of the actresses were recommended to try and play their characters as if not exactly straight. While only hinted at and rather subtle, it did serve as another layer, showcasing the growing generational difference and perhaps the unity in them against the terrible authority figures in their life. Oddly, it also led to help popularize Dungeons & Dragons of all things as a group activity, namely as a follow-up to a character's suggestion to help bond and understand the other, which would be seen in the ending when they meet up out of volition. This theme of the youth agains the old and the generational gap was also seen in Back To The Future, a time travel comedy regarding Marty McFly and Doc Brown, an unlikely duo of friends and get on a crazy adventure involving time travel with Doc's time traveling DeLorean (hinting that he was part of a research for development of a nuclear reactor, killing 2 birds with one stone) and Marty inadvertably improving his future by helping his father George stand up to his bully turned crooked co-worker. Other big hits were the childhood classic The Goonies and Real Geniuses, which saw a group of young intellectuals face off against a large corporation regarding the potential for atomic energy. While some of the steps were questioned, it did become a cult classic for its nunanced exploration of nuclear power, the emphasis of corporate corruption and the relationship between the two main male characters, which some have believed them to be SGO or multi, an interpretation not dissauded by the makers.
However, perhaps the big news would be Disney's animated film released at the time and coming off as a pleasant surpise, Land of The Wild. An adaptation and expansion of the children's book Where The Wild Things Are, it shows the adventure of Max Wilde, an overly imgainative and emotional child who clashes with his more stuffy parents and older sibling. One bad day, he goes over to the meet the Wild Ones, a bunch of friendly yet emotional monsters after running away. While having fun, it also had visceral storytelling through body movement and expression. The plot also shifts as when he tries returning home, he learns his family got lost looking for him and he in turn goes to save them alongside the Wild Ones from The Hollow It, a silent and gaunt shadowy figure lurking in the forest and rulling a cold and desolate place known as the Still Zone, which was inspired by German expressonism. The film is notable for its usage of CGI, using it to reflect the three different locations alongside traditional animation; the Wilde residence, the Land of the Wild and the Still Zone where the Hollow It and its legion resides. The film also had influence from Jim Henson who brought fresh life in the idea and noted that it was meant to be an exploration of wrestling with emotions. Max learning to be better calm and dealing with them while his family becoming more open with their emotions and sense of self as its revealed they suffer from their own troubles and their emotional suppression made them targets by the Hollow It. The Hollow It itslef seems to be an embodiment of despair, apathy, cynicism or possibly depression though with elements of the loss of self from adulthood compromises. Beyond this though, other aspects aimed for younger audiences were being shown. Crisis on Infintie Earths would become a major changing point for DC Comics. Having done this to help make a more modern setting, it would see the end of many characters, notably a version of Superman, to give their life for the future and to one day help the multiverse.* Many ideas from it would be reused here down the line and some note Crisis on Infinite Earths as one of the transition points from the Bronze Age of Comic Books to the Brass Age of Comic Books. The release of Super Mario Bros meanwhile would revive interest in home consoles for video games and that it could be aimed for either boys or girls began creating a greater interest within them and many looking forward for what would be to come from that.
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Big thing here! Shoutout to @Geekhis Khan on the idea for a Wild Things film and went with what I think could work here.
*= Barry Allen doesn't get killed here and neither does Kara as Supergirl. Of course, the sacrifice is done by Pre-Crisis Superman and this would be reference by TTL's version of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow by Alan Moore here. Of course, the idea of one of the big heroes biting it will be considered down the line, if not Barry Allen. This Crisis be different and establish some whole new characters
Feel free to ask questions ansd so on!
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I probably missed it, but why is SATMUNI the term here for LGBT?
Does this mean that DC will be more organized on setting up post-Crisis? Just remembering the last issues of Who's Who having to add notes about "we're not sure yet if these characters and events even happened in the new version".
Or at least have someone persuade Byrne to keep Superboy, so that particular retcon doesn't invalidate a large portion of the LSH stories.
Having Supergirl given more attention would definitely help, and fit in with more respect for women. (But does she still have to remain Supergirl? She'd graduated college several publishing years before Crisis.)
What would happen to the Flash comic? Not sure if Barry could form the type of rapport with some of the Rogues, the way Wally did. Though Pied Piper may come out even sooner ITTL.
Does this mean that DC will be more organized on setting up post-Crisis? Just remembering the last issues of Who's Who having to add notes about "we're not sure yet if these characters and events even happened in the new version".
Or at least have someone persuade Byrne to keep Superboy, so that particular retcon doesn't invalidate a large portion of the LSH stories.
Having Supergirl given more attention would definitely help, and fit in with more respect for women. (But does she still have to remain Supergirl? She'd graduated college several publishing years before Crisis.)
What would happen to the Flash comic? Not sure if Barry could form the type of rapport with some of the Rogues, the way Wally did. Though Pied Piper may come out even sooner ITTL.
Part of it is alternate history and developments. One inspiration was Kentucky Fried Politics having the acronym be BLUTAG.
One specific reasoning is the result of the Conference and the formation of the American SGO, Intersex, Multi & Transgender Association For Equality or ASIMTAFE, which is TTL's version of GLAAD. SGO or Samegend became the new catch-all for gay, lesbian, down-low, etc. Intersex became more prominent because of the wider availability to healthcare and transgender as a result of the TERFs being purposefully excluded from third wave feminism, which had a large influence in the development here and Multi becoming a catch-all for bi, pan, etc. The others would appear over time by the mid-1990s or so.
Samegend (or SGO), Asexual, Transgender, Multi, Undefined, Nonbinary, Intersex.
Popular variants are SATMUNDI, SATMUNIQ and SATMUNDIQ, with Demisexual and Queer or Questioning.
And yes, DC will be a bit more organized; the changing socio-economic times and cultural differences means they will be needing to more thorough in figuring things out. Wondy will be influenced by the third-wave, some character concepts will get combined together and so on. As for LSH and so on, they might end retconning that, if mainly because LSH will also get some influence in Post-Crisis. She'd probably start out as Supergirl once more since we are gonna get a relative back to basics in their backgrounds and so on. They need to figure that out and the approach.
As for Barry, well, they'll just flesh him out and add more to him. It's likely they may have him be a bit more cerebral and methodical in comparison, but still have this sort of pleasant joy in him. Wally will still be around obviously, but be more associated with hanging out with Dick and the others. But yeah, any guesses on who they might bump off at this point or in the near future?
And DC ain't the only one getting affected...
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I apologise but I don’t think I can personally think of anything other than LGBT rolling off the tongue, atleast IMO.
SATMUNDI is interesting. Reminds me of: SATellites around the MUNDI (Earth) or Samedi (Saturday) or (darker) Baron Samedi. "Sat" could be a colloquial slang or reclaimed pejorative.
Was just inspired with how Kentucky Fried Politics had BLUTAG develop and did something from there with SATMUNI.
I figure it’d be a good way to show the divergences in culture as well as the generational differences.
Not bad, though some might stick with LGBT, or, those that find LGBT easier to pronounce.