As someone living in the Pittsburgh area Im down for that lol
Pittsburgh is even more of a knowledge economy hub, and earlier, than IOTL here.
So no Great Depression? The Late 1910's is the worst economic shock the U.S. gets? Do the 1930's only see a weak recession, or none at all? (Thus possibly making the Pershing years the Roaring Thirties).

So Pershing as a bit of an Eisenhower analogue?
There won't be a Great Depression-style meltdown, no. There'll be some choppy economic times in the early 1930s as the 1920s recovery boom ends (and some international events cause turbulence), but nowhere ever close to OTL. I don't know if I'd quite go so far as to suggest a "Roaring Thirties," at least not yet, but the type of poverty and misery associated with that decade will not be here.

And "Pershing as Ike", if not already explicit, is hopefully a much more obvious analogue now.
Great job King

You should cover Mexico and how reyes deals with Zapartas and the economic troubles with the forced privatization and further american dominance.
We'll be getting to that soon!
 
For Thine is the Glory: Brazil and Integralism
"...identifying that "ails the Brazilian polity is not merely the despondency of defeat, but the despondency of godlessness, the despondency of a culture of greed, the horrors of the modern world imposed upon them from outside." By late 1917, Padre Cicero's sermons as he traveled the Northeast drew thousands every time he spoke, and despite the trappings of Catholicism attached to them, they felt like carnivals or Texan revivalist movements more so than staid masses. It began to be said that Padre Cicero could perform miracles - that his touch healed the blind, that men crippled along the trenches of the Parana could suddenly walk once more, that those whose lungs had been ravaged by Argentina's liberal use of chlorine gas could suddenly breathe fully again.

Padre Cicero was also an interesting, potentially dangerous new wrinkle in Brazilian society specifically because he spoke to neither right nor left. He was an opponent of socialism, a fierce one, in fact, but yet he spoke of a communitarian God, of a Catholicism that needed to "tend to its flock" and promised Church leaders that if they could not combat materialism and capitalist excesses, they would "be destroyed on the altar of the false gods of revolution as the flock finds nowhere else to turn." In his language he decried the massive latifundia, denounced the concentration of political power amongst southern oligarchs of the cafe com leite establishment, and excoriated the overwhelming arrogance of the Fonseca years. At the same time, he explicitly drew the line between political and social modernization and Brazil's defeat in the war; it was by turning from God "in heart and soul" that Brazilians had become weak enough to be held at bay by their numerically inferior enemy, which Cicero identified as having won due to carrying "the ideological cause of radicalism which they believed in as fervently as we once believed in God," while Brazil had lost, unmotivated by "a cause of nothing." In essence, the contours of Brazilian integralism were being sketched out in the poverty-stricken villages of the Northeast, one fiery sermon at a time.

Cicero's crusade was colored very much by the peculiarities of the poor, isolated corner of the country where it was occurring - his crowds were often overwhelmingly black freedmen or children of slaves, as tied to the latifundia by economic need as their parents and grandparents had been by bondage - but the years after the war were fertile ground for an explosion of introspection and, in darker moments, recriminations seeking to find some scapegoat for what was being called the Vitoria Mutilada - the "mutilated victory." There was a sense, a very broad one, that while Brazilian territory had never gone touched, and the goal of installing a friendly government in Montevideo had been met in the first weeks of the war, the war had not in fact been anything approximating a favorable strategic outcome by the time it ended. Brazil had quit the war before the United States could further sink any of its navy and in doing so swallowed a provision that demilitarized the Uruguayan coast, perpetually forbidding Brazilian warships from the River Plate, which erased many of the advantages of a Uruguayan satrapy. While the whole of Argentina's Mesopotamia was demilitarized, too, in Rio de Janeiro this was seen as a total surrender of strategic advantage, and for as much as many Argentines had wanted to press ahead with harsher terms, it was in Brazil that the provisions of Asuncion were seen as a humiliation, with them the only member of the Bloc Sud never conceded ground in the field and forced into retreat.

The political situation in Brazil was thus highly volatile, and Hermes Fonseca's scalp had not been enough to sate the "braying mobs," as Prime Minister Pessoa referred to the industrial strikers in major cities or the roving bands of demobilized veterans who had within months of the ink on the treaties being dry formed violent gangs that extorted business owners, traded in contraband in the inflationary postwar economy, and were looking for an outlet of their rage other than each other. The language of bitterness appealed to this polity, and the type of appeal to a renewal of faith typified by Cicero was not unique to him, but mirrored in similar language by the devout Luis I, who privately shared more than a few of Cicero's less bombastic beliefs about the importance of the Church as the foundation of the Brazilian state, at least in terms of promoting a sense of shared nationhood and political unity..."

- For Thine is the Glory: Brazil and Integralism
 
Cicero's crusade was colored very much by the peculiarities of the poor, isolated corner of the country where it was occurring - his crowds were often overwhelmingly black freedmen or children of slaves, as tied to the latifundia by economic need as their parents and grandparents had been by bondage - but the years after the war were fertile ground for an explosion of introspection and, in darker moments, recriminations seeking to find some scapegoat for what was being called the Vitoria Mutilada - the "mutilated victory." There was a sense, a very broad one, that while Brazilian territory had never gone touched, and the goal of installing a friendly government in Montevideo had been met in the first weeks of the war, the war had not in fact been anything approximating a favorable strategic outcome by the time it ended. Brazil had quit the war before the United States could further sink any of its navy and in doing so swallowed a provision that demilitarized the Uruguayan coast, perpetually forbidding Brazilian warships from the River Plate, which erased many of the advantages of a Uruguayan satrapy. While the whole of Argentina's Mesopotamia was demilitarized, too, in Rio de Janeiro this was seen as a total surrender of strategic advantage, and for as much as many Argentines had wanted to press ahead with harsher terms, it was in Brazil that the provisions of Asuncion were seen as a humiliation, with them the only member of the Bloc Sud never conceded ground in the field and forced into retreat.
The situation in Latam certainly remains volatile. Brazilian military planners will be looking for a way to avoid getting bogged in the Paraná again, and the natural option is to prepare for naval action in the River Plate. Of course, Argentina will reach the same conclusion, and we got a naval arms race in our hands. I expect Argentina to understand that the prospect of inflicting a decisive defeat on Brazil alone is borderline impossible, so a lot of the planning would revolve around ensuring American involvement. For once, I can definitely see a heavy push to get the US to establish a naval base on the approaches of the River Plate, preferably with a powerful fleet, but also to serve as tripwire troops. Brazil trying to break the demilitarization would be met with shots, so this also has the potential to be a trigger for a second round.

Both countries when it comes to Uruguay should be interesting as well. Uruguay is not really suitable for a lot of guerilla warfare, but I can certainly see a lot of resistance of the passive and intellectual kind from the Spanish speaking part, obviously supported by a bunch of exiles across the pond. I do wonder whether this movements will go towards Uruguayan nationalism or focus on the Brazilian role in cutting Uruguay off from Argentina and thus go for support for an eventual Argentine annexation. This could shape Argentinian war aims in an eventual second round.
 
The organic bois are certainly reactionary.
“is this restaurant organic?”
“We source all our food Farm to table and…”
“No - is it organic.” *DEUS VULT intensifies*
Well I figure many of the western states would be in need of laborers and people to move to bolster the tax base. Plus various religious groups and ethnic groups seeking to build their own communities.
I’m sure that would happen, but probably not by design. Recall how virulently Sinophobic West Coast politics are
The situation in Latam certainly remains volatile. Brazilian military planners will be looking for a way to avoid getting bogged in the Paraná again, and the natural option is to prepare for naval action in the River Plate. Of course, Argentina will reach the same conclusion, and we got a naval arms race in our hands. I expect Argentina to understand that the prospect of inflicting a decisive defeat on Brazil alone is borderline impossible, so a lot of the planning would revolve around ensuring American involvement. For once, I can definitely see a heavy push to get the US to establish a naval base on the approaches of the River Plate, preferably with a powerful fleet, but also to serve as tripwire troops. Brazil trying to break the demilitarization would be met with shots, so this also has the potential to be a trigger for a second round.

Both countries when it comes to Uruguay should be interesting as well. Uruguay is not really suitable for a lot of guerilla warfare, but I can certainly see a lot of resistance of the passive and intellectual kind from the Spanish speaking part, obviously supported by a bunch of exiles across the pond. I do wonder whether this movements will go towards Uruguayan nationalism or focus on the Brazilian role in cutting Uruguay off from Argentina and thus go for support for an eventual Argentine annexation. This could shape Argentinian war aims in an eventual second round.
Great comment! Indeed your feedback helped shape my thinking in this post

I agree with your thoughts here and I’d add that both sides probably presume, reasonably, that there will at some point be a round two. I’d also add that Desterró becomes probably the most important strategic point for Brazil - they need a massive fleet in being there that can swing into the River Plate on a moment’s notice, and avoid getting boxed out like in October 1913.

I’d say that Uruguayan nationalism as a form of resistance to Brazilian domination is the likelier outcome, though that’s in part because I find Argentina annexing Uruguay a bit trite
 
Great comment! Indeed your feedback helped shape my thinking in this post
Thanks!
I agree with your thoughts here and I’d add that both sides probably presume, reasonably, that there will at some point be a round two. I’d also add that Desterró becomes probably the most important strategic point for Brazil - they need a massive fleet in being there that can swing into the River Plate on a moment’s notice, and avoid getting boxed out like in October 1913.
And it seems that both sides will push for it. Argentina cause it stands on a pretty good position if they can expect US backing, and Brazil cause they seem to be going full crazy, lol. Their situation is not great, since they will probably have no help from outside while Argentina will at the very least receive heavy US support, if not outright entry into the war.
I’d say that Uruguayan nationalism as a form of resistance to Brazilian domination is the likelier outcome, though that’s in part because I find Argentina annexing Uruguay a bit trite
It's worth considering that inside the debate Uruguayan nationalism has some factors against it, in comparison to Trans-Platininism/Pan-Platinism/I have-no-idea-how-it should-be-called.

Firstly, there's an argument to be made that Uruguayan Nationalism was already tried and failed. The idea that Uruguay could be a truly independent state that balances it's relations with both Brazil and Argentina died with the Brazilian occupation. Of course, jumping to annexation into Argentina from there misses several steps, but this would at least leave us in a nominally independent Uruguay with very heavy ties to Argentina and a very big fear of Brazil. Having two countries with very tight ties and cultural affinity, it would be only natural to ask "Why not just go all the way?".

Secondly, giving that Argentina will likely be hosting the exiles and funding the resistance movements, they'll have a lot of influence on the way the movement goes. It's not hard to imagine Buenos Aires having a preference for those who argue for their preferred point of view, and in this case that translates into more funding and therefore more reach.
 
I do wonder with the growth of Brazilian Integralism, could we see a Brazil with negros and prados closer to economic equality in Brazil.
And then there will be the *wonderful* reaction of the Papacy to the rise of Integralism.
Does the Papacy really have a side they support in the CEW? On the one hand, France, Austria and Italy are run by Catholics, and Germany by a protestant, but OTOH, Germany has a lot of Bavarian Catholics and Austria-Hungary has a lot of non-catholics.
 
I do wonder with the growth of Brazilian Integralism, could we see a Brazil with negros and prados closer to economic equality in Brazil.
And then there will be the *wonderful* reaction of the Papacy to the rise of Integralism.
Does the Papacy really have a side they support in the CEW? On the one hand, France, Austria and Italy are run by Catholics, and Germany by a protestant, but OTOH, Germany has a lot of Bavarian Catholics and Austria-Hungary has a lot of non-catholics.

The Papacy's chief concern is that - though it is currently back in Rome (thanks to British negotiations), it is going to have a deeply contensious relationship with "Liberal Italy" (to use the Church's favorite slur against the Italian government at the time in OTL). On one hand, it is going to be incredibly concerned about Italian soldiers marching into the Vatican and putting the Pope under arrest (leaving aside whether Italy would actually DO this - the Vatican will be convinced that they would). On the other hand, they HATE the Italian government with a white-hot passion and would like nothing more than to get some territorial status back to secure their own position.

So, under normal circumstances, the Papacy would be strongly on the side of France and Austria, without question. However, their fear of Italy's ability to occupy the Vatican is going to keep them on edge and likely prevent them from coming out strongly on the side of the Bonaparts and Habsburgs.

I see them instead trying to offer themselves us as third-party neutral arbitrators to bring an end to the conflict - this improves their diplomatic standing around the world and would give them a role in the eventual peace treaty. Should Germany and Italy win, maybe the Pope's role in the peace might be enough for them to secure official independence and concessions. If France or Austria win ... same thing.
 
Philly gets the capital and Pittsburgh gets to be a big university hub— this TL might be a low-key Pennsylvania wank, ngl, and I am here for it.
"low-key Pennsylvania wank" =/= tens of thousands of graves south of Harrisburg...
Though to be fair, the screw of Maryland is only slightly less than most of the Confederacy...
 
And "Pershing as Ike", if not already explicit, is hopefully a much more obvious analogue now.
Hell even I can get behind a Liberal who's main thrust domestically is massive public works/infrastructure while working in tandem with Dems on low-hanging fruit both parties can get behind.

Plus, it seems at his age he'll be pretty clearly one term and done, a trend in the Cincoverse that isn't as prevalent OTL.
 
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