My guess is that in 1980 you have one Freedman quasi-state in the Mississippi River valley, largely in MS, holding some of AR, having subsumed refugees from LA and TN, one in central AL, having (barely) held a transport corridor to the one in MS since the post-war period and received huge refugee populations from upland GA, and one in coastal SC-GA.

This is based on four assumptions:
1. The Americans own the Mississippi River lock, stock, and barrel and prevent the CSA from putting so much as a customs dinghy on the water.
2. They turn a blind eye towards basically any amount of arms smuggling to the Mississippi River statelet short of the NBC triad, and maybe even allow a dash of C.
3. Kentucky rebounds no later than 1930 to be an important industrial node with direct access to the Ohio and Mississippi, and sees enough inbound black refugees and outbound white ones that it ends up majority-black no later than 1925. IOTL in 1910 Kentucky had about 260k black residents and 2 million white; I expect that at the opening of the GAW that balance is more like 400k-1.8 million given the continued existence and expansion of slavery, and over a million ex-slaves refugeed in just during the war.
4. At no point are the Confederates allowed a navy or coast guard which can command US-flagged ships to haul to within their coastal waters.

The other freedmen statelets will be crushed in a sea of blood, which will strengthen those three as basically everyone who can flees to them and more forward-looking statelet leaders pack up the whole dang state to pull a Long March.
For me, South Carolina will be interesting, because the huge Black population (pre-Great Migration, it was like 55% Black, and with refugees and Confederate war deaths will make this ratio even more tilted in favor of the non-white population) and the natural ports in Charleston and Savannah in neighboring Georgia will allow for a large and thriving arms smuggling community. The swamps of coastal South Carolina, as well as the entrenched Gullah people, will lead to a massive population that can't be easily displaced or killed, at least until the CSA gets its act together to drain the swamps, which shouldn't happen until like the 30s, at which point, there's enough of an armed freedman population that Huey Long isn't going to press the issue to much (and possibly even finds an ally in resisting the country's aristocracy). Not only that, but there will be freedman refugees from the massacres in North Carolina, which at this point is one of just a few functioning states in the country.
 
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A quick question, did we ever hear anything about Jesse James? I know it's minor but maybe for Cincoverse a quick wiki page about him as a congressman for the Confederacy or a raider, or a solider who died in Cuba. That might be interesting, besides that, it's great stuff as always.
 
You know, with the losing side of the GAW and the losing side of the CEW being what the are, integrelist leaning thinkers are going to feel mightily besieged. The one theme of the two great wars of the first quarter of the 20th century is more conservative powers being beat down by new upcomers (granted there's a lot more nuance there but that's going to be what they focus on), and I would not want to live in Brazil or France in the aftermath considering the reactionary, siege mentality backlash that's coming.
 
This might sound perhaps a bit pessimistic but I'm not the most hopeful about the Free men polities, at least till we get more information about their internal structure.

By that, while the CSA may indeed struggle to swallow them if they have well established foundations, the warlord era may put a hamper on this, with a lot of...not sure internal fighting is the right word power clashing and succession being a major issue that threatens them establishing themselves possibility aided by the CSA.

That being said, paradoxically I can very much see the CSA in the future being very willing to cut deals and negotiate with the more unstable freed man provinces because they might not be worth it.

By the CSA while definitely a white supremist nation still, is already running into a bit of issue finding men willing to die for it, a limited man power pool to crush a warlord state that ''blackens'' the population who will be a constant worry of revolt and small scale attacks seems a bit dubious project versus deputising a local warlord to keep them under control. Better to enraged divide and rule per say than have them all hating the status quo.

Though will admit am curious how the CSA governments will handle that issue, by that while a ''crusader'' force to reunite the nation is tempting a disastrous campaign could brake the supporters of the CSA ever reuniting while a general conscript force will be very unpopular besides the increasing regionalism and grudges from the horrors of recent years.

One ''solution'' I can sort of see would ironically be the state attempting to employ a lot of free men, as in given the crummiest equipment they have and maybe moved around the state? With the idea of paying them to keep loyal to the state, mainly because while I can see plenty of white being quite willing to restore the CSA, the fear of another black uprising once they are trying to conquer parts that broke away would be a major concern, yet they can't just shoot them all both because the US would prevent a genocide and the simple fact is they do need freed man labour in the economy.

Might see developmentist white supremacy arise overtime in the CSA, by that mechanised agriculture would help reduce the amount of dependency on non white labour though the question is how to afford it.
 
I know the author is not at liberty to divulge too much about the process by which Austria Hungary will collapse. But in view of the few hints that have been given; I'd make an few predictions about where the monarchy will stand in future. Obviously it is implied that Emperor Ferdinand will be forced to abdicate and that in all likelihood union with Hungary, Czechia, Croatia and so forth will unravel. But KingofSweden did indicate that the Hapsburgs won't completely disappear - so at the very least they will continue to rule in Austria. I do recall that union between Austria and Germany is unlikely so an continuation of the Hapsburg monarchy is quite plausible.
As it happens I could imagine the continuance of the monarchy might help to ease Austria's transition from an multinational empire into just one of the many successor states of the old empire. The conflicts between the Socialists and the Christian Socials won't be erased but the tendency toward the emergence of an clericalist, authoritarian regime led by the likes of Schuschnigg and Dollfuss might be mitigated with the restraining influence of the old dynasty still in place. Though that might depend upon the direction that the next monarch chooses to take. It is entirely plausible that the sense of dislocation and alienation may lead toward this nostalgic reaction in favor of authoritarian government not entirely dissimilar from IOTL.
The more interesting case would probably be the case of Hungary. Hungarian independence in this case would be based on an overt rejection of the Hapsburg monarchy. At the same time it seems unlikely that someone like Bela Kun would be in a position to seize control of the Hungarian government. It would appear that the preeminent leaders of the Hungarian national movement have put themselves in an commanding position and would be in an decent position to head off threats from both the Left and Right. Perhaps Admiral Horthy would still make an appearance though maybe not in the same exalted position that he offered IOTL.
 
abolitionists and war hawks protested that there had been no movement on the critical Fourth and Fifth Amendments demanded by Mount Vernon, amendments that would actually guarantee the rights of freedmen after the end of bondage.

- A Freedom Bought With Blood: Emancipation and the Postwar Confederacy
Yelp, they are not going to be passed aren't they? Considering the subtantial drawdown of the occupation and a president leaving over the passage of the third. Martin has even less insentive to pass the two other ones.
 
based on how the Hungary updates keep mentioning the palatine of Hungary i think the independent states may be still ruled by the many branches of the Habsburgs
 
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A quick question, did we ever hear anything about Jesse James? I know it's minor but maybe for Cincoverse a quick wiki page about him as a congressman for the Confederacy or a raider, or a solider who died in Cuba. That might be interesting, besides that, it's great stuff as always.
I think he was killed pre war? Wasn't he one of the Standard Fruit pirates of the Caribbean who was trying to sink US ships in like 1908ish?
 
My guess is that in 1980 you have one Freedman quasi-state in the Mississippi River valley, largely in MS, holding some of AR, having subsumed refugees from LA and TN, one in central AL, having (barely) held a transport corridor to the one in MS since the post-war period and received huge refugee populations from upland GA, and one in coastal SC-GA.

This is based on four assumptions:
1. The Americans own the Mississippi River lock, stock, and barrel and prevent the CSA from putting so much as a customs dinghy on the water.
2. They turn a blind eye towards basically any amount of arms smuggling to the Mississippi River statelet short of the NBC triad, and maybe even allow a dash of C.
3. Kentucky rebounds no later than 1930 to be an important industrial node with direct access to the Ohio and Mississippi, and sees enough inbound black refugees and outbound white ones that it ends up majority-black no later than 1925. IOTL in 1910 Kentucky had about 260k black residents and 2 million white; I expect that at the opening of the GAW that balance is more like 400k-1.8 million given the continued existence and expansion of slavery, and over a million ex-slaves refugeed in just during the war.
4. At no point are the Confederates allowed a navy or coast guard which can command US-flagged ships to haul to within their coastal waters.

The other freedmen statelets will be crushed in a sea of blood, which will strengthen those three as basically everyone who can flees to them and more forward-looking statelet leaders pack up the whole dang state to pull a Long March.
Of the three you identify, I think a Central AL “Black Belt” statelet has the hardest time surviving, at least to the extent of autonomy that the Yazzo and Sea Island areas can sustain long term.

And I concur with your Kentucky calculation.
Would any of these states gain full statehood rights following the 1990s desegregation? I could maybe see some of them wanting to push for it to guarantee more influence in national politics. Though the CSA government may not necessarily want to do that.
I’m reluctant to go that route, but the component counties may enjoy special home rule rights of some kind perhaps
For me, South Carolina will be interesting, because the huge Black population (pre-Great Migration, it was like 55% Black, and with refugees and Confederate war deaths will make this ratio even more tilted in favor of the non-white population) and the natural ports in Charleston and Savannah in neighboring Georgia will allow for a large and thriving arms smuggling community. The swamps of coastal South Carolina, as well as the entrenched Gullah people, will lead to a massive population that can't be easily displaced or killed, at least until the CSA gets its act together to drain the swamps, which shouldn't happen until like the 30s, at which point, there's enough of an armed freedman population that Huey Long isn't going to press the issue to much (and possibly even finds an ally in resisting the country's aristocracy). Not only that, but there will be freedman refugees from the massacres in North Carolina, which at this point is one of just a few functioning states in the country.
Yeah, South Carolina tbh, especially much of its low county, is probably unrecognizable demographically compared to OTL, especially after how Pershing went even harder there than in Georgia
A quick question, did we ever hear anything about Jesse James? I know it's minor but maybe for Cincoverse a quick wiki page about him as a congressman for the Confederacy or a raider, or a solider who died in Cuba. That might be interesting, besides that, it's great stuff as always.
I think he was killed pre war? Wasn't he one of the Standard Fruit pirates of the Caribbean who was trying to sink US ships in like 1908ish?
Correct, IIRC
You know, with the losing side of the GAW and the losing side of the CEW being what the are, integrelist leaning thinkers are going to feel mightily besieged. The one theme of the two great wars of the first quarter of the 20th century is more conservative powers being beat down by new upcomers (granted there's a lot more nuance there but that's going to be what they focus on), and I would not want to live in Brazil or France in the aftermath considering the reactionary, siege mentality backlash that's coming.
That’s a great point, actually. The two wars are very much more seen as a struggle of old tradition vs the new; this probably colors the 20th century leading forward
This might sound perhaps a bit pessimistic but I'm not the most hopeful about the Free men polities, at least till we get more information about their internal structure.

By that, while the CSA may indeed struggle to swallow them if they have well established foundations, the warlord era may put a hamper on this, with a lot of...not sure internal fighting is the right word power clashing and succession being a major issue that threatens them establishing themselves possibility aided by the CSA.

That being said, paradoxically I can very much see the CSA in the future being very willing to cut deals and negotiate with the more unstable freed man provinces because they might not be worth it.

By the CSA while definitely a white supremist nation still, is already running into a bit of issue finding men willing to die for it, a limited man power pool to crush a warlord state that ''blackens'' the population who will be a constant worry of revolt and small scale attacks seems a bit dubious project versus deputising a local warlord to keep them under control. Better to enraged divide and rule per say than have them all hating the status quo.

Though will admit am curious how the CSA governments will handle that issue, by that while a ''crusader'' force to reunite the nation is tempting a disastrous campaign could brake the supporters of the CSA ever reuniting while a general conscript force will be very unpopular besides the increasing regionalism and grudges from the horrors of recent years.

One ''solution'' I can sort of see would ironically be the state attempting to employ a lot of free men, as in given the crummiest equipment they have and maybe moved around the state? With the idea of paying them to keep loyal to the state, mainly because while I can see plenty of white being quite willing to restore the CSA, the fear of another black uprising once they are trying to conquer parts that broke away would be a major concern, yet they can't just shoot them all both because the US would prevent a genocide and the simple fact is they do need freed man labour in the economy.

Might see developmentist white supremacy arise overtime in the CSA, by that mechanised agriculture would help reduce the amount of dependency on non white labour though the question is how to afford it.
Developmentist white supremacy, absolutely. Very explicitly exclusionary of black people, but the New Deal South was totally fine with “big government” when it suited them after all
I know the author is not at liberty to divulge too much about the process by which Austria Hungary will collapse. But in view of the few hints that have been given; I'd make a few predictions about where the monarchy will stand in future. Obviously it is implied that Emperor Ferdinand will be forced to abdicate and that in all likelihood union with Hungary, Czechia, Croatia and so forth will unravel. But KingofSweden did indicate that the Hapsburgs won't completely disappear - so at the very least they will continue to rule in Austria. I do recall that union between Austria and Germany is unlikely so a continuation of the Hapsburg monarchy is quite plausible.
As it happens I could imagine the continuance of the monarchy might help to ease Austria's transition from an multinational empire into just one of the many successor states of the old empire. The conflicts between the Socialists and the Christian Socials won't be erased but the tendency toward the emergence of an clericalist, authoritarian regime led by the likes of Schuschnigg and Dollfuss might be mitigated with the restraining influence of the old dynasty still in place. Though that might depend upon the direction that the next monarch chooses to take. It is entirely plausible that the sense of dislocation and alienation may lead toward this nostalgic reaction in favor of authoritarian government not entirely dissimilar from IOTL.
Yeah, I’d say that some kind of clerical-Habsburg nostalgist regime is not just plausible but rather likely, it just might not be *quite* as dictatorial as what Dollfuss dreamed up.
The more interesting case would probably be the case of Hungary. Hungarian independence in this case would be based on an overt rejection of the Hapsburg monarchy. At the same time it seems unlikely that someone like Bela Kun would be in a position to seize control of the Hungarian government. It would appear that the preeminent leaders of the Hungarian national movement have put themselves in a commanding position and would be in a decent position to head off threats from both the Left and Right. Perhaps Admiral Horthy would still make an appearance though maybe not in the same exalted position that he offered IOTL.
Yeah I’ve tried to seed Karolyi as a player as much as possible for a reason; nothing like the Hungarian Soviet is coming down the pike.

And I’d like to find a use for Horthy if I can; perhaps as something of a Franco-type figure.
Yelp, they are not going to be passed aren't they? Considering the subtantial drawdown of the occupation and a president leaving over the passage of the third. Martin has even less insentive to pass the two other ones.
The failures of Reconstruction without any of the actual Reconstructing
based on how the Hungary updates keep mentioning the palatine of Hungary i think the independent states may be still ruled by the many branches of the Habsburgs
A sound theory
Speaking of Austria Hungary, where is that A. H. wannabe painter ITTL?
Ideally I can get through the TL without ever mentioning him or a certain Georgian seminary student
 
For Thine is the Glory: Brazil and Integralism
"...broached the most uncomfortable question in Brazilian politics on November 27, 1918, when it was asked clearly: who, in the whole of the Imperio, actually enjoyed the confidence of the public while also holding credibility with the powerful landed establishment and military?

Nascimiento Vargas discovered rudely that it was not he, upon the defeat of his emancipation law by the Chamber of Deputies. The vote was excruciatingly narrow, with three votes sufficient to change the outcome and with it likely the course of Brazilian history. But alas, on that day, 52 deputies voted nay, and 49 voted aye, and Vargas announced upon its defeat his resignation from the floor of the House of Deputies as his allies cried out in alarm and despair. Many of those who voted down the bill had done so because it was neither graduated nor compensated; proponents of the bill had denounced the idea of compensating slaveowners for slaves in their mid-forties as being utterly absurd, especially as the practice was on "borrowed time" with the march of aging from the Law of Free Birth continuing on.

The truth of the matter was that for Vargas, the defeat of his Law of Emancipation was simply the last straw. Rio de Janeiro saw almost weekly protests, riots and street fights between rival "veterans advocates" who were usually just unemployed, bored and angry and covered their ennui with violence and aesthetics of politics. Policy was nonexistent, and the General Assembly a vipers' den of rivalry, intrigue and subterfuge; assassinations and attempted assassinations were common, with a gunman even attempting to open fire upon Vargas in the House of Deputies itself just two weeks earlier. The job was thankless and bordering on impossible, and Vargas was unwilling to embarrass himself any longer.

This left Brazil adrift, again. Luis I, advised by a number of prominent aristocratic statesmen and the crucial Dom Leopoldo Augusto, chose not to call fresh elections just a year after the previous edition, fearing yet even further political displacement. In the past several months, a populist outfit led by former Admiral Isaias de Noronha had emerged, supported by street hoodlums referred to as the Verdes and calling themselves the Associacao Nacionalista with a focus on rebuilding Brazilian national pride through an unapologetic "pursuit," as Noronha called it, of the "pessimist tendency." What this meant exactly was left intentionally vague, but the brutal violence deployed by Noronha's legions of underemployed thugs left little to guess. That Noronha was at the head of such a movement was in and of itself partially concerning; if the former "lifeboat admiral" whose flagship had been sunk at Hilton Head could stand atop a rising wave of aggressive populism, then somebody with much more public credibility could do so, too.

Luis was refused by his cousin Dom Leopoldo Augusto, however; Nilo Pecanha and Delfim Moreira were experienced statesmen but both in terrible health, forcing them each to tearfully decline. Lauro Muller was too associated with the wartime government of Pinheiro Machado, a man who would only serve to provoke if appointed to government again. This left Luis with a figure whom he was reluctant to call upon, but could still command a cabinet once more of technocrats; Venceslaus Bras, a conservative but one who had not irritated too many people. Nonetheless, the debacle to close out 1918 proved yet again that the efforts of the establishment to sustain themselves represented nothing more than a rotating cast of the same aristocrats, and the military's grouchiest figures, still smarting from the defenestration of Fonseca, began to see Noronha as a potential alternative and increasingly became a pillar of his support, rather than attempting to block his ascent..."

- For Thine is the Glory: Brazil and Integralism
 
Can we get a look in on Max and Mexico? With maybe a peek at the shitshow that (presumably) is Central America?

Figure Boston Fruit is setting up shop and propping up governments down in the Isthmus.
 
Do they have the political and economical capital to endure such an annexation?

I suspect they could, though probably not for a few years - perhaps in the mid-20s or early 30s.

Arguably, Mexico exited the GAW in better shape than any of the Bloc Sud powers (Brazil got territorial concessions and 'won' but at a heavy cost and is suffering high political instability). Its most certainly suffering its own problems, but seems to be in a good position to weather the storm - especially with the Prince Regent running the Regency as well.

If they okay their cards right, and agree to not interfere too strongly with American business, Mexico could move in to 'restore order' and even win the blessing of Philadelphia - so long as they bide their time and wait for the US to grow concerned with the chronic political violence in the former Centeo.
 
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